16-07-2000 13:02									#1
	The Civ 2 High Council. Increase the size of your Attachments

Does anyone ever use it? Sometimes they're sure as hell annoying, as their intrests conflict (build caravans vs build embassies vs build barracks) but other times the best way to win is to please them all...

Do you ever use it?

	16-07-2000 16:34									#2
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I like watching their antics.

I wish TOT had them...

	16-07-2000 16:39									#3
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Use, as in help determine strategy or use as in provide comic relief for when the AI is pounding my Civ into little bits of gravel? I almost never use them for the first and very frequently use them for the second.

BTW, any of you in serious need of gravel. I seem to be producing a lot of it lately.

Ken
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	16-07-2000 18:28									#4
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Following their advice is usually the wrong thing to do But they are funny... I can't remember the last time I had that feature turned on

	16-07-2000 18:33									#5
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I love them! As comic relief, not from a strategic point of view. Elvis is just so cool!
I can't play without the music, movies, throne room and council. I need it to get attached to my empires, to get that essential Civ feeling. And I need a movie when I complete a wonder, like a puppy that gets a cookie when he's done a trick.

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	16-07-2000 18:55									#6
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Yeah gotta love Elvis and the WW movies! Although I haven't had the council on in ages.

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	16-07-2000 19:09									#7
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Yeah... the wonder movies were OK the first, second, and third time... But come on, how many times do you really need to see them.

My favorite advisor is the military, especially when you are kicking butt and he just stays drunk...

	17-07-2000 04:22									#8
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I don't know about other level/world sizes, but on king/huge world, if I manage to get the financial guy happy pre-modern, I know I have the game in the bag...

...and his response always gives me a chuckle...

	17-07-2000 04:38									#9
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wow, I forgot all about them! :eek

	17-07-2000 09:11									#10
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Sometimes it's just possible to get the AI in a handbag, and keep the game running for peace and building up your population...you keep pressing 'Enter' until the High Council appears...

Normally however I wipe out my allies with a huge World War (normally 6 vs me) before the 20th century...

	17-07-2000 13:56									#11
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Despite being scorned last time this topic came up - I find them very useful or more specifically I find the science advisor to be so -- how else can you determine how you are standing in the science stakes (assuming you have not built Marco's, or found all other civs and established embassies with them - I rarely do the first and never the second at least until spies come along)
When that little man smiles and runs off to polish his abacus I know things are good in the Empire...


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	19-07-2000 08:04									#12
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I want to strangle that Trade Advisor sometimes. Especially when you're producing units to eliminate all your enemies, and you get told to build caravans!

	19-07-2000 11:52									#13
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Am I the only one who has watched them NOT on Civ2? Just open the file from a media player and watch them all! Some are very funny that I've never had in a game...

Sci Advisor (Medieval)- "Sire, the very cobble stones of our streets possess more learning than we do. I all matters sire, WE SUCK!"

Trade Advisor (Modern)- Here's you! Here's a clue! Get a clue! Discover trade!!

Then there the drunk Medieval Military Adivsor.

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	20-07-2000 06:36									#14
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High council advisors may not be useful, I think we all agree with that, but they are fun.
Wonder movies and advisor movies are not precisely "useful" but they add some spice to the game. I sometimes enjoy and relax watching those guys discussing nonsenses, especially when the game is getting hard.

The city inside view could be vastly improved. It was much better in old civ1. Cities look almost the same no matter the age!

	20-07-2000 11:01									#15
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It's all modern based.

Buildng a granary that looks like that in the ancient age?

	20-07-2000 19:58									#16
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I just put "make the high council happy" as another of my goals in the game to make it more intresting, but lately i have not played with the cd 'cause i'm also playing StarCraft and i don't want to change the CD every time.

	20-07-2000 23:11									#17
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And notice how the text below them sometimes says more than the video...?
I also like what happens when you open then in an anarchy.

	21-07-2000 05:23									#18
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I think that the "High Council" was the very first thing I learned to turn off. Even the entertainment value paled rapidly.

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	21-07-2000 06:18									#19
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I dunno, I still open it sometimes... for no good reason (like watching Ricki Lake just to laugh at how pathetic it is)

	21-07-2000 06:35									#20
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I like the council, but for amusement purposes only. No real useful information can be had from it that you didn't have already from the game itself.

When it pops up at the usual intervals, I'm usually very quick to press the "No, too busy" button, but from time to time I still find it amusing to hear the "experts" at my own convenience.

	22-07-2000 07:08									#22
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usually listen to the HC, though I amost never heed their advice. The last time my foreign minister told me to exchange techs with other nations, I tried and they all declared war on me at once. Granted I was pretty pathetic at the time. I felt like strangling that pretty neck when a bunch of dragoons came and took my outer cities.

I have to turn it off in FW scens, though. it gets irritatng when you have every tech and that girl is still bugging you to discover writing.

Elvis bores me, but the miltary advisor almost always cracks me up. like the time I had nothing but city garissons, and he said "we stand astride the world like a collossus". What an idiot!

	22-07-2000 16:33									#23
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yeah - you have every tech and more that the enemy has, and she's asking you to exchange techs...like it is possible...

	24-07-2000 01:42									#24
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They are real funny, but there advice sucks.

I've also played the media clips, the game dosn't use half the videos supplied with it.

	26-07-2000 04:46									#25
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For some reason I can't find the file that has those clips. I have MGE and I've looked through that folder and all the subdirectories several times.

Can anyone tell me what that filename is?

	26-07-2000 15:54									#26
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at least for 2.42, they are on the CD in the D:\civ2\video directory (with D being the CD drive)

council0.avi is the ancient council
council1.avi is the renaissanse council
council2.avi is the modern council

each period also has a separate anarchy file as well.

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	26-07-2000 18:52									#27
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My favorite is when your tanks are blowing away muskets and legions, and your military advisor is telling you to build more barracks...

	26-07-2000 19:35									#28
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Oh, duh, I was looking on my hard drive, not on the CD

No wonder I couldn't find the blasted things