06-11-2001 11:14									#1
	The open letter has been posted! Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=32613

If I've made any mistakes or left anyone out, please let me know on this thread. Of course, everyone is encouraged to take an active part in the discussion we hope ensues. Go get em!

	06-11-2001 14:32									#2
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

hmm, it's already fallen of the first page.
Have you asked to moderator of the Civ 3 forum to 'top' it?

	06-11-2001 18:48									#3
	Suffering from ads?

Or alternatively, top this thread, WarVoid

	06-11-2001 20:30									#4
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I guess Markos saw your suggestion, Case. Thanks, Markos!

	08-11-2001 01:30									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Unfortunately gentlemen, it seems as if we aren't getting much attention from Firaxis. Or at least they haven't posted a reply to the letter. Feels good to be ignored huh?

-FMK.

	08-11-2001 04:20									#6
	Got spare money?

I suspect that they arn't posting a reply becuase it would go against their marketing campaign. If they posted a reply they would have to
1. Confront the fact the the game is seriously lacking features
2. Admit that they're planning an expansion pack

Obviously either admission would harm sales in the short run, so no-one at Firaxis will post [I'm happy to be proved wrong here though ]. I'm 100% sure that Firaxis have read the letter though.

	10-11-2001 02:48									#7
	Got spare money?

did we have the letter emailed? it might make a difference

	10-11-2001 03:32									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

I don't think so. Case is right. They won't participate in any discussions where they might not look good. There's no doubt whatsoever that they've read it.

	10-11-2001 03:46									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Why are you so sure that Firaxis have actually read the thread and not just looked it over?

	10-11-2001 05:03									#10
	Inflate your Upload Space

Well, it's the top of the premier Civ3 forum, has over 3500 views in 5 days and is signed by thirty people, plus the fact that several Firaxians have been active in the forums from the start make it a pretty sure bet. But if folks would like me to email it to them as well, I certainly will. I just don't think we should kid ourselves about why they aren't responding.

The lack of a response doesn't mean they haven't got the message, however. I think they have. Response to the game on the forums has generally been mixed, at best. Whether or not they provide what we want will depend more on the potential market for it than anything we say in the letter. But I'm sure the message has been delivered.

	10-11-2001 05:25									#11
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I signed it also, but I really think it's a waste of time.

	10-11-2001 14:13									#12
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Perhaps I should write it in the second thread, but You can add me to the list;
Maciej "The Merciless" Czyż
squonk@poczta.wp.pl
scenarios;
Fading Lights, Komnenai and one other.
Aha. I also demand Polish civilization.

	12-11-2001 09:03									#13
	Tired of ads?

We did hear from Dan from Firaxis on another thread. Mark G has offered to officially forward the letter to Firaxis. I sent it to them by email 2 days ago, but I think Markos has a bit more clout. Hopefully we will get a more or less detailed response soon.

	12-11-2001 10:21									#14
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I got the impression from one of Father Beasts posts that he'd sent it to them as well as posting it on Firaxis' own messageboard, so they must at least know about it.

Maybe they're just waiting until they can tell us something concrete? (or maybe I'm being too optimistic again? ).