07-11-2001 05:49									#1
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I managed to get a Great Leader (George Washington) using the Americans and I have been trying to get another. I know that there is a 1/16 chance but is it possible to have 2 Great Leaders at the same time?

	07-11-2001 06:05									#2
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Yes.

The game currently playing as the russians have Ivan the Terrorable and Peter the Great.

Now what do you do with armies/leaders after their units become out dated?

	07-11-2001 07:40									#3
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quote: Originally posted by GoofyBoy Now what do you do with armies/leaders after their units become out dated?

You send them into one last glorious battle, of course.

	07-11-2001 07:48									#4
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One thing I'm having trouble understanding is what sort of battle is required for an elite unit to create a leader.

Is it any battle that an elite unit survives, or just ones where the elite unit attacks and wins a battle? (Had an elite horseman unit get assaulted by about 6+ barbarian horsemen. No leader.)

	07-11-2001 07:51									#5
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You can't get a leader from barbarians. My anecdotal experience and rumors here indicate that it may be more likely to get a leader from offensive combat, but I haven't researched it enough to say. Good thing to ask Firaxis, since it would take a long time to run numbers that were statistically significant.

	07-11-2001 12:09									#6
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I have yet to receive a great leader from an elite unit defending. course, this is just my experience. i don't see why it isn't possible. a elite unit is an elite unit, no matter if it's defensive or offensive. what really sucks is getting a great leader and the ai counters heavily and you lose him before you can use him.

MaSsConFUsi0n

	07-11-2001 20:24									#7
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I have had a leader appear from an elite spearman defending, so I know it's possible to get them that way. Unfortunately, the spearman lost the next battle and **poof** no more great leader.

	07-11-2001 21:25									#8
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Don't feel bad GreyCloak, I know what you mean. My last game (and best yet) I had quite a few leaders show up. Fighting alot does help the leaders show up. I had one leader show up when my mech infantry lived through a barrage of attacks while I was slowly wiping out the 3 remaining civs. Getting them home was another story, never did manage that, oh well, no great loss, I was pumping out armies pretty fast and just waiting for a victory condition to show up. Got the domination victory 3 turns before the cultural victory was gonna kick in

From my observations (far from statistical or scientifically accurate) I think the odds of getting a leader improve when your victory is hard fought or improbably.

Alantus

	08-11-2001 01:25									#9
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In 4 full games on Regent level I am yet to see a Great Leader emerge and I have had many elite units fight a lot of battles.