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Meh, who cares about the quality or what was promised... it's like school, finishing that "special" project 20 minutes before it's due. As a kid, I was told that I would never get away with it in junior high, but I did. I was then told I would never get away with in High School, but I did. I've been told that university won't stand for that sort of thing, but so far so good. Looks like it's no problem to pull off in the business world as well. Old wives' tale, I guess!
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Earthling7
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It's not Firaxis' fault, it's Infograme's. |
Whoever is to blame, should us, the stupid customers, not have some rights? I should (hoping) get my LE delivered today. When I do, I will unpack it and post the picture here. Then we will all know exactly what is included and what not.
I saw a Collector's Edition of DiabloII in a shop some months ago. It had the in-game movies enhanced on a DVD and loads of other extras. You had to pay for the difference, but so do you with CivIII.
If this is because the game was rushed, can we not be compensated in some other way now, after release? Upon proof of purchase, can we not be sent a CD/DVD with some juicy stuff, or a book, Strategy Guide, Tin Settler... something!
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When I first read what was supposed to be in the LE, my immediate reaction was "whoopy doo". I was underwhelmed. Too bad I was right. I'd have shelled out for a limited addition that actually included anything valuable or worthwhile.
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Dan Magaha FIRAXIS
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The Metropolis known as Hunt Valley
Mar 2000
time: 00:16
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Originally posted by LaRusso
Okay. I am waiting for Firaxians to say: well we prepared those notes but evil Infogrames pulled it back.
Still, I have that on the cover of my tin box. NOthing inside. I rightfully demand an explanation and I am sorry if I sound repetitive and boring. I sincerely hope at least Dan will say a word. |
To be honest, I don't know much about the LE or its contents, other than the tin, manual, and fold-out tech tree, because I've actually seen them. We haven't even gotten our copies here yet, so I really don't know what else is or isn't in the box. Typically, though, the packaging and contents of game boxes are driven by the publisher, but I don't really know what happened in this case.
Note that I'm not pointing any fingers, because I really don't know what happened. I'm just stating a fact, that typically developers do what they do best, which is make the game. Publishers do the rest: market, produce, distribute, and sell the product.
Dan
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TCO
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Jan 1970
time: 00:16
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Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS
To be honest, I don't know much about the LE or its contents, other than the tin, manual, and fold-out tech tree, because I've actually seen them. We haven't even gotten our copies here yet, so I really don't know what else is or isn't in the box. Typically, though, the packaging and contents of game boxes are driven by the publisher, but I don't really know what happened in this case.
Note that I'm not pointing any fingers, because I really don't know what happened. I'm just stating a fact, that typically developers do what they do best, which is make the game. Publishers do the rest: market, produce, distribute, and sell the product.
Dan |
1. Maybe y'all should take just a little bit more interest in what your publishers/distributors are doing. Would not be hard to drive over to Landover Mall and pick up a copy of LE. Or to order one on Amazon.
2. Sure looks like a finger point to me. I guess people's recourse is to the vendor (Best Buy, Amazon, etc.)
3. Y'all may not control how the box gets put together and distributed, granted. But you ARE the designers. You should at least be able to tell if these notes were ever written. If not, how could they possibly get packed in the box!!!
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TCO
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Richmond, VA
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time: 00:16
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Last edited by TCO on 08-11-2001 at 22:12
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Kautilya
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St Louis, MO
Feb 2000
time: 23:16
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La Russo,
Been there done that. When I saw the LE I was so outraged with it that it almost soured me on the game itself. I have returned the LE so I guess I am not that bothered now.
Dan,
" I don't know much about the LE or its contents, other than the tin, manual, and
fold-out tech tree, because I've actually seen them."
Then I am kind of disappointed that the tech tree passed Firaxis' quality standards. It was the worst poster I have seen in any strategy game including Civ2 and SMAC.
. The print was out of focus and it was too small. In fact it was just a bunch of screenshots; no one had even bothered to draw the thing properly.
Not to mention the lack of any information other than the tree itself; compared to Civ 2 where you had units and terrain information.
Making the tech poster a fold-out was a good idea IMO but it should have done properly like in Imperialism 2,AOK or Railroad Tycoon 2. The Imperialism 2 poster for instance (since it is the game most similiar to Civ3) has the tech tree printed properly on one side and the units,terrain and hot-key information on the other side. It is compact (would have fit nicely into the LE box) and highly useful.
And all these other poster were included free with the regular edition which makes the LE poster doubly disgraceful.
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Steve Clark
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Oct 1999
time: 22:16
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Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS
To be honest, I don't know much about the LE or its contents, other than the tin, manual, and fold-out tech tree, because I've actually seen them. We haven't even gotten our copies here yet, so I really don't know what else is or isn't in the box. Typically, though, the packaging and contents of game boxes are driven by the publisher, but I don't really know what happened in this case.
Note that I'm not pointing any fingers, because I really don't know what happened. I'm just stating a fact, that typically developers do what they do best, which is make the game. Publishers do the rest: market, produce, distribute, and sell the product.
Dan |
And this is from the Firaxis Marketing Department?!?
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07-11-2001 14:34
I can always house the XP box in the tin whenever that arrives. All in one box!
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