08-11-2001 21:10									#1
	Yet another bug... (and a rather abusable one too) Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Abusable, but in SP it's not like it really matters. I tried looking for a place to submit this as a bug on the Civ 3 page but I guess they don't want any e-mail, so maybe they'll read it here...

If this has been posted already then I apologize in advance.

So anyways, here I was, after having half my empire snatched away by the Chinese/French/English during the Feudal Age I bide my time and through some crafty trading I manage to build every scientific wonder (among others) and am fairly far ahead of every other Civ in terms of tech by the Modern Age.

I build up my armed forces to the point where there's quite simply no way I could lose to anybody, with the huge tech advantage and overwhelming numbers I intended to get revenge on the Chinese.

I just needed to start a war. I liked my reputation. I liked the fact that I can make an agreement with an AI Civ and he'll generally respect it. So I had to incite the Chinese into declaring war on me without doing something that would damage my rep. After trying various things I just decided to threaten them with a completely ludicrous tribute demand a bunch of times to get them really pissed at me, then wait until one of their ships happened to stroll through my coastal waters so I could demand they "withdraw or decalre war". That seemed like a good plan to me. Sounds good in theory right?

http://www3.telus.net/ono/imrich.jpg

Well, much to my surprise the Chinese realized I would have crushed them like twigs and gave in to my demands...

Yes, I did actually get that amount of money each turn.

A couple turns later, I got _really_ greedy (not like I could have spent what I was getting already) and demanded 9999999999999999999999999 (whatever the maximum I could fit into the dialog box asking how much) and much to my surprise (or not) the Chinese agreed. Of course, the next turn I took in more money than the long integer variable used to store the monetary value could hold and it went into the negatives, so I went from more money than I could spent to negative 47392847329743242 trillion.

Anyways, still a bug. Exploitable.

	08-11-2001 21:26									#2
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The most well-known bug in the game.

But hey, maybe someone here didn't know, so gosh.

	08-11-2001 21:38									#3
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Oooh I love all the internet forum elitists and their little cliques.

God forbid someone doesn't spend their entire day on an internet forum. Some of us actually have responsibilities

	08-11-2001 22:01									#4
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I hitted this kind of "huge numbers roll into negative" bugs in Sid's Railroad Tycoon, and they are still around. Unbelievable!

Come on Sid, time to hit some programmer with a long stick

BTW justgivemeaname, don't take easy offence, it doesn't seems Jason's is the worst reply I have seen around here so far

Best place to put discovered bug is the forum section "Civ III - Help", where probably the moderator will move it anyway.

	09-11-2001 18:34									#5
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I didnt know!
so there jason
remember, most of the people in the world dont actually have the game yet

	09-11-2001 18:50									#6
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This is indeed an exploitable yet unforgivable bug. I can't wait for a patch and until then I just try to forget that it exists. I used it twice but still managed to get my ass kicked I've since stopped and now play Civ III the 'clean' way (and still get whipped).
One thing to watch out for if you're going to experiment with this 100000..... bug is that the opposing nations can easily capitalize on this as well. When I used this per turn monetary bug I was laughing to the bank for umpteen turns, building armies and accelerating city improvements. A war had been declared by the Americans & French against me (Aztecs). The Americans actually managed to raze a couple of my outer-rim cities. As a result they walked away with like 3 million bucks! Twice! So all of a sudden they're getting wealthy as well. That being said I didn't find taking this advantage was worthwhile.
Anyway, that's my 999999999 pennies.

Until the patch.....