12-11-2001 14:12									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Earthling7 Resources and Culture are great additions to Civ. The problem I see is how rushed it was.

did you get your copy already ? i thought you were still waiting for it....

	12-11-2001 14:14									#32
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I don't understand anything, I just want to hit start game and 23 clicks/3 mins later I want to get a victory message.......

As a matter of fact I like the resource deal but I'm still all for a resources off/scarse/normal/abundant slider if that will make someone elses game.

You're so ME FIRST I can only pity you.

/dev

	12-11-2001 14:18									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Dev I don't understand anything, I just want to hit start game and 23 clicks/3 mins later I want to get a victory message.......

um, pacman is good. and then you go to another level

	12-11-2001 14:24									#34
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Maybe if you quit your senseless post padding we might actually get a constructive Civ3 discussion going here ?

/dev

	12-11-2001 15:04									#35
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This thread might be an ironic take on the circular nature of whining or it might be a complete trollfest but it certainly isn't the right place for a constructive Civ3 discussion. I'm sure I saw threads devoted to serious subjects but they keep scrolling off thanks to threads like these. If you want to talk about serious issues then the best way to ensure that happens is to post in serious threads and not add to the fuel in these ones

	12-11-2001 15:50									#36
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At least you admit your a whiner. Now we all can move on and find some new insults to call you!!

	12-11-2001 15:53									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Simpleton At least you admit your a whiner. Now we all can move on and find some new more meaty insults to call you!!

	12-11-2001 16:07									#38
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Grumbold you're right of course but I'm so easy to bait :P


/dev

	12-11-2001 16:32									#39
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CyberShy- "people are complaining about game features that rock."
But why would you care so much about that? I certainly don't care that you like them.

-"people 'demanding' Firaxis to change the resource concept."
Again, who cares? It's not like Firaxis is going to make any major changes.

You still have not explained the degree of hostility displayed by you and others.

Dev- "simply make it customizable so what's your ****ing beef ?"
That is an excellent example of what this thread is all about.

Grumbold- Um, this is the "General" forum. Besides, if people took the time to understand my point rather than thoughtlessly brushing it off we could actually see less of this argument.

	12-11-2001 16:38									#40
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quote: Originally posted by LaRusso did you get your copy already ? i thought you were still waiting for it....

I dread to say this, but I "helped myself" to a copy. It slided down my connection to the outside world and onto my hard drive.

I don't approve of this, but since they could not be arsed to release it simultaniously, and I have already paid for my copy... Three weeks difference, and no LE on top of that, I decided to be too weak to just wait.

	12-11-2001 16:43									#41
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quote: Originally posted by n.c. Grumbold- Um, this is the "General" forum. Besides, if people took the time to understand my point rather than thoughtlessly brushing it off we could actually see less of this argument.

	12-11-2001 18:33									#42
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I would like to take this time and whine about how much I like the game.

	12-11-2001 23:18									#43
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy That's like playing Quake and requesting all enemies to tab you on the shoulder like "Hey, I'm behind you" so you have time to turn around and kill them

Yes, sure, that's exactly what it's like, you COMPLETE F*CKING MORON. Care to add anything relevant?

	12-11-2001 23:20									#44
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ARHHGGHG DAR DAR ME LIKES DA GAME DO'NT TR4SH DAR COOL FEATURES ME LIKES COMBAT LIKE WHEN NUCLEAR SUB LOSES TO FRIGATE AAAHHHRR HAR HAR

	12-11-2001 23:25									#45
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quote: Yes, sure, that's exactly what it's like, you COMPLETE F*CKING MORON. Care to add anything relevant?

1. you do take things really to serious don't you ?
2. Like your post adds something
3. Like this thread is any interesting
4. as far as I can see I do say something relevant
5. take your medications
6. care to watch your language ?

	12-11-2001 23:33									#46
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While he's a bit harsher than myself I share Zylka's frutration at the way people mischaracterize our comments.

	13-11-2001 00:17									#47
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quote: Originally posted by n.c. While he's a bit harsher than myself I share Zylka's frutration at the way people mischaracterize our comments.

What he said.

You're still an idiot, though. Nice use of the point form argument and rolleyes, you trite fool.

	13-11-2001 00:21									#48
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thanks for promoting me from a F*CKING MORON to a plain simple idiot. What's next ?

	13-11-2001 00:23									#49
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Peace guys. Can't we just get along? I thought I ws the only evil person on the forums...

	13-11-2001 00:41									#50
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does this thread prove that everyone is a whiner?

or am i just whining about the thread?

	13-11-2001 01:13									#51
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You are a whiner .

quote: Most of the issues people complain about could have been avoided if Firaxis had made the game more customizable i.e. sliders for resources and corruption level etc.

Editor is easy enough to change the resource scarcity. Just bump up the number to your liking.

	13-11-2001 10:40									#52
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quote: Editor is easy enough to change the resource scarcity. Just bump up the number to your liking.

Bumping up the number means less resources....

Anyway that's a silly argument since the editor commands isn't documented so changing anything is like playing in the dark...I'd rather play Civ3.

/dev

	13-11-2001 11:19									#53
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I just want to play the Russians in Russia, the Mongols in Mongolia, the Japs in Jap-land...

(and actually be able to sink ships with planes)

Is that really so much to ask? if it is then I fear you...

	13-11-2001 12:38									#54
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Seeker, you have a valid point.
I hope Firaxis will patch that (I'm sure they will)
but I think it goes to far to say that CIV3 is broken because that off-core issue. (which is important and valid though)

	13-11-2001 12:54									#55
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I understand the fact that artillery/planes can not destroy units on land. This probably simulates that a few guys will almost always get away. After a good bombing campaign, getting these units is really nothing more than a clean-up operation. They are too weak to offer any resistance. But it is different with ships. Ships can not hide. Planes and bombardment should be able to sink them.

And for the language... if I was a moderator...

	13-11-2001 13:40									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Cougz does this thread prove that everyone is a whiner? or am i just whining about the thread?

only the people who reply in this thread... that would make me a whiner

maybe we need a "whiner" smiley?