13-11-2001 04:59									#1
	The Battle for Manifold 6 - turn reporting thread Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Gentlemen: Lock Tusks !!

This is a SMAX game - Aliens only

Players, in turn order, are:

Warriors - NorthSwordsman ( northswordsman@yahoo.com )
Overlords - Qantaga ( qantaga@aol.com )
Usurpers - Deimos ( deimos_00@usa.net )
Caretakers - big_canuck ( kckhnsn@mnsi.net )
Preservers - mark13 ( anne.harrison1@ntlworld.com )

Transcend level, huge map (50% to 70% water), no AI, average everything else.

Only game conditions turned on are:

Win by Conquest
Do or Die
Look First
Steal Tech
Bell Curve

(Summoning the fleet is an automatic game-winning condition for an alien faction)

Alien clone factions can be found in Rynn's Gallery at:

http://googlie2.tripod.com/rynnsgallery/id7.html

(I will also attach them to your e-mails with the passwords, but you might find it quicker downloading them via Tripod's site above)

Thanks to The NetworkNode for the faction graphics

2101 has been sent to NorthSwordsman

Good luck all

Googlie

	13-11-2001 19:48									#2
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Googlie, once again I tip my hat to you. Thank you very much for setting up this game. It promises to be a lot of fun.

2101 sent to Deimos and his merry band of Usurpers.

	14-11-2001 03:37									#3
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After much merry-making, MY2101 is off to big_canuck.

	14-11-2001 06:04									#4
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2101 to Mark

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Pleased to meet you all. (I have met Mark before, and I'm pleased to meet him again too ). Have fun, and good luck!

bc

	14-11-2001 20:12									#5
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2102 to NorthSwordsman - and Big Canuk's sentiments echoed (if you replace the word 'Mark' with 'Big_Canuk' )

	14-11-2001 20:15									#6
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Turn to Overlord Qantaga.

	15-11-2001 11:05									#7
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MY 2102 to big_canuck

	16-11-2001 04:39									#8
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2103 to NS.

	16-11-2001 04:46									#9
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2103 =====> Qantaga.

	16-11-2001 17:05									#10
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MY2103 to big_canuck

	16-11-2001 19:15									#11
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Answer to a question posed in Manifold-7. Yes, as Alien factions you have the commlinks for all the others right from the beginning.

G.

	16-11-2001 22:31									#12
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2103 to Mark

	17-11-2001 08:24									#13
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Bad News, Guys

(and you may want to ditch this game concept before you get too far into the game)

Alien AI's cannot talk, trade or otherwise do business with other alien AI's.

I just playtested 150 turns, contact was made, even built the empath guild, but even with a unit just outside a base, the only screen that ever comes up is the ten line diatribe from alien to alien.

I looked in the faction files to see if there was perhaps a key that could be turned off - the only relevant one is the "alien" one itself (which would let the factions talk) but then would disable the battlefleet summoning victory as well as the unique alien energy crediting system (base facilities and special projects) and the various other alien attributes.

So it's a pretty solitary game without diplomacy, and as I say, you might want to kill it before you invest too many more hours

Googlie

	17-11-2001 20:58									#14
	Re: The Battle for Manifold 6 - turn reporting thread Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Well, that does throw a kink into things. Hmmm... I still like the idea of the game, though.

quote: Originally posted by Googlie Only game conditions turned on are: Win by Conquest Do or Die Look First Steal Tech Bell Curve

We could still conduct diplo via email and because of the above quoted game settings, we can still trade tech. It's just that a base and a few ec's would come along with the deal. Also we could permit probe team tech stealing.

The above methods are random in nature if the target has more than 1 tech that the initiatior does not, so that'll be problematical. We could suspend the "no reload trying for a better result" rule in such cases.

Thoughts? Comments? Flames?

	18-11-2001 02:59									#15
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Yeah, I think we should carry on, despite this development - and if all else fails, we can always do what Deimos describes....

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2104 to NS.

	18-11-2001 11:59									#16
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Turn to Qantaga.

Death to those who would dare to stop my conquest of the manifold experiment!

	18-11-2001 22:32									#17
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I would also like to continue on.

2104 to Deimos.

	18-11-2001 23:41									#18
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MY 2104 to big_canuck

Sorry about the reload message. The game locked up when I loaded the turn.

I, too, would like to carry on.

	19-11-2001 04:20									#19
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2104 to Mark

	19-11-2001 06:43									#20
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2105 to NorthSwordsman.

	19-11-2001 13:13									#21
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Turn to Qantaga.

I like the rather original base names I'm getting here. :-). Whoever put those in has a sense of humor,

	20-11-2001 00:34									#22
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Yikes! Two Unity Pods - two fungal blooms - two big fungal towers in the middle of the blooms. My starting territory is not quite so hospitable anymore.

2105 sent to Deimos.

	20-11-2001 05:20									#23
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MY 2105 to big_canuck

Q: Don't look at it as an unhospitable area; look at it as ec's waiting to be deposited into your account.

	20-11-2001 07:37									#24
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2105 to Mark13

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Hmmm...

Email communication and probes for tech/map sharing sound like a bit of extra work, but something different, and interesting...

I don't really like the idea of reloading to get the right tech, though. I think we would just have to live with randomness.

Just my opinion.

bc

	21-11-2001 01:06									#25
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Turn to Qantaga.

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Why reload? Take what you get, probe away what you want.

	21-11-2001 02:08									#26
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2106 to Deimos.

I do agree with big_canuk (and NS) that we should not allow reloads. The randomness could make for some intersting results with allowed probe actions.

For instance, how about EnvEcon for ..... a map ???

	21-11-2001 07:47									#27
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MY 2106 to big_canuck

I'm fine with disalowing the reloads. I hadn't thought about it before, but the random-ness of what you'll get from "allowed" probe actions does indeed sound intersting.

	21-11-2001 09:17									#28
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2106 to Mark

	22-11-2001 05:03									#29
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Turn to Qantaga.

	22-11-2001 05:05									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Qantaga For instance, how about EnvEcon for ..... a map ???

Just as long as I'm the one getting EnvEcon, you are getting the map.