17-11-2001 21:14									#1
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Sometimes a strategic resource will not appear on the map until well after the discovery of the tech enabling its appearance. I had a "new" oil resource pop up later in a game next to one of my cities long after Refining was discovered.

	17-11-2001 22:55									#2
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I believe this occurs when a resource is exhausted. I've had a strat resource exhausted, and immediately another showed up within my borders.

Adam

	18-11-2001 03:23									#3
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Sounds right to me. I depleted a supply of iron just prior to the "new" discovery of oil. It was the only latter-game resource of which I and the AI had a supply of, so getting the extra oil was not that much of a thrill. Things would have been a whole lot easier if it had been aluminum instead!

	19-11-2001 23:07									#4
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I've had a coal resource be exahusted, and simultaneously a new one emerges (conveniently inside the radius of a city that already had iron, so I could, for the first time ever, build the Iron Works).

Then I had coal be exausted, and a few turns later, saltpeter showed up in its place.

Now my problem is no local rubber. As the Germans, I MUST have rubber. No rubber. No Panzer. Makes Otto cranky. Babylonians find out how cranky it makes Otto.

	19-11-2001 23:28									#5
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Hey has anyone ever had rubber appear in a forest that they themselves planted?

My civilization started out deep in the heart of a jungle continent so I spent a couple thousand years in the Ancient Age tree-cutting. I had a long-term thought and realized that it might hurt me later on, since I'm bulldozing a potential source of rubber.

I was wondering whether I could encourage the "discovery" of rubber by making lots of forests in the unused part of my backyard. No success yet, but thankfully I have my own natural source.

The strange thing is I've seen rubber appear on foreign grasslands and tundra, and it's supposed to appear in forest and/or jungle. Maybe it's because there once was a jungle or forest there and the game remembers the original terrain type.

Any thoughts on this?

	20-11-2001 01:46									#6
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IronSpam, yes the initial resource placement is determined when the game starts, so even if you chop down all the jungle trees, the rubber that has been there since the beginning will still appear once you can see it. I don't know how the game handles a resource that runs out and then is discovered somewhere else, though, but you won't hurt yourself for those initial resources.

-quinalla

	20-11-2001 04:54									#7
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From the manual, rubber can only appear in forests or jungles.

However, the manual is often incorrect, so my guess is that either rubber doesnt run out (never happened to me), or when it does, the game places it wherever it feels like.