20-11-2001 17:38									#31
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Jimmy -

Question for ya...... I have managed to get the unit position portion of the editor to work like a champ, but for some reason I'm having problems with the year change.

Every time I change the year (no matter what value I provide it), it does initially change the game year to what I specify. However, as soon as I run a single turn, the game date changes back to what it was originally +1 turn in time.

For instance: Saved game at 3700 BC. Fired up editor, loaded save game, changed date to -4000, saved file with appropriate name. Fired up Civ III, loaded this save. Ok, at this point all is fine, date reads 4000 BC...... advance the turn...... the date changes from 4000 BC to 3650 BC.........

What am I doing wrong?

Lord Khang

	20-11-2001 20:46									#32
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG james if you could work this out and provide me with the instructions so that i can do for every tournament, it would be great

I believe a better way to protect the tournaments is to make the utility check if a NOEDIT-flag is set somewhere in the EXE, and not allow the files to be edited if it is set. Maybe in combination with a has-been-edited-flag.

The protect-thing would mean less work, as you wouldn't have to check each file. I believe I know a way it can be done.

	20-11-2001 22:43									#33
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Well for this flag in the exe to be added they'd have to run the editor in the first place. I don't think theres much I can do about the current match that's running but, but future one's could have a password placed in the save file that Dan or Mark release for future match's, if they try to load up the saved file in the editor then if should prompt for a password.

This way Dan or Mark won't have to check hundreds of sav files for cheating.

Let me know what you think MarkG.

James.

	20-11-2001 23:12									#34
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quote: Originally posted by jimmyh Well for this flag in the exe to be added they'd have to run the editor in the first place. I don't think theres much I can do about the current match that's running but, but future one's could have a password placed in the save file that Dan or Mark release for future match's, if they try to load up the saved file in the editor then if should prompt for a password. This way Dan or Mark won't have to check hundreds of sav files for cheating. Let me know what you think MarkG. James.

Unfortunately, if people want to cheat they will cheat with or without your editor. The editor does make it nice and easy, but it is by no means the only way to edit the file. No matter what means you put into the file, there will be someone out there that will figure a way around it. I'm in the tournament for fun... If I get a mention on the website great, but if I'm last by 10,000 points, I'll know that I didn't cheat.

Anyway, great job so far... Keep up the good work. If you need/want any help on this project, I'm a willing programmer at your disposal.

	21-11-2001 01:51									#35
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quote: Originally posted by jimmyh Well for this flag in the exe to be added they'd have to run the editor in the first place. I don't think theres much I can do about the current match that's running but, but future one's could have a password placed in the save file that Dan or Mark release for future match's, if they try to load up the saved file in the editor then if should prompt for a password. This way Dan or Mark won't have to check hundreds of sav files for cheating.

sounds good, but will the password remain in saved games of a game that started with this saved game?

	21-11-2001 02:44									#36
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG sounds good, but will the password remain in saved games of a game that started with this saved game?

I think there is a way to do so, but I've not tested it yet, and I'll not post it public.

	21-11-2001 04:34									#37
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I think it's time for an update.

I've fixed the bug with changing the year, this now works, you will not be able to enter Invalid years, you will get prompt that there is an error with the year and it'll suggest two valid years.

i.e -4000, -3950, -3900 are valid
-3999, -3920, -3907 are Invalid

If you enter -3999 it will suggest you change it to -4000 or -3950.

Things being worked on: ( Will be release in the next version. )
The ability to change your selected civ.
Uncovering the world when you move units about with the editor.

Possible be able to change the units you start with.

If you 'd like to suggest any thing you'd like in the next version or an update of any version then let me know.

Cheers.
James.

Attachment: civ3-sge-v1-01.zip
This has been downloaded 1342 time(s).

	21-11-2001 04:37									#38
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Hi. Could someone please help? I'd really like to use this save game editor for a proper game of Civ. When I load a save game into the program it reports an error and closes. I'm not sure if I missed some instruction, but I've read every message on this board several times looking for a clue, found nothing that worked. I've tried this on both of my computers and neither work, so...

	21-11-2001 04:57									#39
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Could you please post the save game you are trying to load.

And I will have a look at it for you.

Cheers.
James.

	21-11-2001 05:55									#40
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Here's the saved game file. It didn't work with any of the saved games I tried. I had a friend of mine also download this utility and the same problems occured. I think I must be doing something wrong. Do you have to save the file with a particular name or something?

	21-11-2001 05:58									#41
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That last one didn't attach the file for some reason...

	21-11-2001 06:00									#42
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...and it looks like it's still not going to...

	21-11-2001 06:06									#43
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Just send it to healeyjames@hotmail.com

	21-11-2001 07:50									#44
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"i'd love to hear your suggestions for a better format kitten" MarkG

I bet you would

But that would be as bad as sleeping with the enemy...

	21-11-2001 08:30									#45
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YOU THE MAN JIMMY!!!

Year date problem solved. Man, I was going nuts trying to figure out why it didn't work the first time around....... but then again, I'm no programmer.........

So......... where shall I send the gratuitous monetary donation?

Yours -

Lord Khang

	21-11-2001 08:54									#46
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Hey Kitten, which version of Sat's map did you use for the monarch level save game? I downloaded the latest version (4.5), added your file to the save game files, but when I try to open it, I get an error. The only problem I can think of off the top of my head is a discrepancy in map type. I'd really like to track down the problem, as I am extraordinarily eager to play this (and I don't want to do all the work myself.)

	21-11-2001 13:06									#47
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civ3-sge-v1-01 doesn't work here
I extract a file "Save Game Editor.exe" size 53kb only from the civ3-sge-v1-01.zip but if I call it I only get a small window with with nothing in it and Windows down's accept it as windows program.

	21-11-2001 13:36									#48
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quote: Originally posted by kittenOFchaos I bet you would But that would be as bad as sleeping with the enemy...

in that case, what are you doing here? how can you stand using our filthy site?

	21-11-2001 16:59									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Dreifels civ3-sge-v1-01 doesn't work here I extract a file "Save Game Editor.exe" size 53kb only from the civ3-sge-v1-01.zip but if I call it I only get a small window with with nothing in it and Windows down's accept it as windows program.

What Operating system are you using?

James.

	21-11-2001 18:23									#50
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win95 b with all updates

	22-11-2001 02:22									#51
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quote: Originally posted by ajbera Hey Kitten, which version of Sat's map did you use for the monarch level save game? I downloaded the latest version (4.5), added your file to the save game files, but when I try to open it, I get an error. The only problem I can think of off the top of my head is a discrepancy in map type. I'd really like to track down the problem, as I am extraordinarily eager to play this (and I don't want to do all the work myself.)

Some times when you edit maps with the editor it also saves out the rules data, so that it can overright the default ones when it's loaded into Civ3. I've not taken this into account yet, but I'm working on it, it may well be fixed for the next version I'm not sure.

Try to use a map that doesn't have any changes to the rules data.

James.

	22-11-2001 02:35									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Dreifels win95 b with all updates

Well I've not try'd it with 95, only 98 and win2k. I may be using some windows stuff that's wasn't avaliable in 95.

I'll see if I can try it with 95 some where, until then there's not a lot I can do.

Try getting a copy 98 or some thing.

P.S Is any one else having this problem?

Cheers.
James.

	22-11-2001 12:21									#53
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After implementing the fix (16 antartic islands fr start locations), my world map works wonderfully! It is a measurable amount of work to do the setup, but well worth it considering the time already spent on the map.

Again Thanks!
PS. I've not had any crashes with your version 1, but I'm running Win2K.

	22-11-2001 12:23									#54
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"in that case, what are you doing here? how can you stand using our filthy site? "

Pure hipocrisy is how I can stand using your site

I love the modders in this site and much which they produce...I hate alot of your posters esp. Venger and his creed...I have come to accept Yin26 though

	22-11-2001 12:29									#55
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George G...can you post your save games of starting positions...so other people need not go through the effort of setting up the game...

At civfanatics people will hopefully -soon- be doing the same on this thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...p?threadid=9842

I'll post tonight my saved games again in the hope they'll work -since they contain the map etc it doesn't matter what version of map you have!

Problems could be due to some of the mods I'm running on my computer for civ3

	22-11-2001 13:31									#56
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quote: Originally posted by jimmyh Well I've not try'd it with 95, only 98 and win2k. I may be using some windows stuff that's wasn't avaliable in 95. I'll see if I can try it with 95 some where, until then there's not a lot I can do. Try getting a copy 98 or some thing. P.S Is any one else having this problem? Cheers. James.

attached here (if it works) a screenshot, after I call the tool.
Do that need a special vbrun version?

ok, let's clear this: you wrote that the civ3edit has to be open with the same map. But that's a bic file, not a sav file.
Nevertheless, I called the editor, loaded the right bic file with that I played before, called save file editor, and what I got the same is as if I call the save game editor without all other and you see at the screenshot.
Either I misunderstood you how the tool works, or it doesn't run with win95

	23-11-2001 04:13									#57
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No, it works in Win 95 ver C

	23-11-2001 07:48									#58
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then it should work here, what's wrong?

	23-11-2001 08:00									#59
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this doesn't work with Windows XP

please try to make it compatible with this OS.

	23-11-2001 08:29									#60
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Play as the Americans on the excellent world map with 16 civs in historic position...monarch difficulty.

By Masterman over at civfanatics.com

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...=&threadid=9953