21-11-2001 18:16									#1
	F**K the UN patch Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

If you forget to disable the UN victory option a good game can suddenly end in deception. You're happily on your way conquering the world or building your spaceship and have everything under control when suddenly some halfwit minor nation builds the UN and ends the game in its favour.

I suggest the following patch:

If the UN is built and other nations have agreed to vote in favour of one of your competitors you have the option to say "F**k the UN!" and go on with your bussiness.
This decision would result in all other nations being at war with you for a period of 40 years.

Your ideas please.

	21-11-2001 18:29									#2
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This is odd. In the title I typed F**k the UN patch and it was changed to Love the UN patch?

What's going on?

	21-11-2001 18:33									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

LOL @ the thread title...

as for your idea... wasn't that in SMAC someway?

Maybe you should focus on reputation after all.

	21-11-2001 18:52									#4
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

In SMAC it was an achievement to have everybody unite behind you, but here in Civ3 it unfortunatly isn't.

	21-11-2001 19:25									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Grim Legacy LOL @ the thread title... as for your idea... wasn't that in SMAC someway? Maybe you should focus on reputation after all.

The idea originated in Master of Orion.

Every 25 turns, after 2/3 of the galaxy was colonized, there would be a vote between the leaders of the two most populous empires. In contrast to Civ3, each race's vote was weighted according to its population.

If either of the leaders received 2/3 of the vote, he was declared the Galactic Emperor. If that wasn't you, then you had a chance to reject the ruling. If you did, all of the other races aligned against you in a "Final War". By the way, the *original* Master of Orion was one of the best, if not the best, turn-based strategy games ever developed. I still have it on my computer.

This "final war" possibility is something that Civ3 should have definitely added. I was very surprised when I built the UN, tried it out and suddenly lost the game despite owning 80% of the planet.

Needless to say, the UN is by far the most powerful wonder in the game. It is a 100% must-build. If you are small, it is your best chance to win. If you are large, you have to build it to avoid having the game stolen from you.

Yes, the UN is a f*cked-up wonder right now.