21-11-2001 18:41									#1
	Ironclad Upgrade? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I just got Mass Production and am now able to build battleships. Since the ironclad is a forerunner of the battleship, I thought that I could upgrade it. So I moved one of my ironclads three squares into a city with a coastal fortress but was not allowed to upgrade it. I have rubber and oil available as resources, by the way.

Is this correct? Do we have to build battleships from scratch?

	21-11-2001 18:58									#2
	Re: Ironclad Upgrade? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by StarGazer So I moved one of my ironclads three squares into a city with a coastal fortress but was not allowed to upgrade it.

Coastal fortresses do not upgrade units. You need to have a harbour in that city if you want to upgrade.

If this was a typo or it has a harbour as well, make sure that city is connected to your capital so it has access to your rubber and oil.

	21-11-2001 19:28									#3
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Ironclads do not upgrade. Use them for scouting, beating up on the fleets of wooden ships that the AI likes to build, or for scrap iron (i.e. disband them in a port that is working on a better ship, for the return of shields).

	22-11-2001 01:33									#4
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Actually, don't Destroyers come before Battleships?

I know, pick, pick....

	22-11-2001 14:26									#5
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quote: Originally posted by JAMiAM Ironclads do not upgrade. Use them for scouting, beating up on the fleets of wooden ships that the AI likes to build, or for scrap iron (i.e. disband them in a port that is working on a better ship, for the return of shields).

They don't upgrade? Bummer. Thanks for the advice, though.

	23-11-2001 00:27									#6
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You can edit them so that they upgrade.. but that wouldn't be very realistic. IRL, you can't "upgrade" an Ironclad or any other naval unit to a better one. Ok, you can fit some fancy new equipment to modern warships, or fit a frigate with more powerful cannons, but that's all...
Making infantry from riflemen seems more realistic.
In the game you can upgrade the galleon to transport, but I've actually turned this feature off... I just can't imagine how it could be done IRL! Even disbanding the galleon and receiving sheilds for it sounds weird... what will they use that old, rotten galleon hull for when making a transport?

Fred