22-11-2001 06:16									#1
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Mark -

Do you know what a moderator does? He moderates.

Do you know what a commentator does? He comments.

You've clearly lost the line between the two. I mistakenly posted in the Strategy forum instead of the General - and rather than simply close the thread or move it with an off topic remark, we also get your COMMENTARY on me, personally:

venger, you're becoming tiring and posting in the wrong place as well....

So be it. You tired Mark? Give up the modertor gavel - moderators cannot get tired of listening to viewpoints they just don't like. You don't get tired of posts - just posts that rattle YOUR world view. Apparently these forums are not for critiquing, or using your head, rather there for gladhanding and other mindnumbing fawning that you seem to find acceptable.

Want to make a comment about Civ3 or my arguments or positions? Make them. Want to comment on me personally? Step down from your moderator platform.

Venger

	22-11-2001 06:56									#2
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how did you get the 1969 regd date venger?

	22-11-2001 07:06									#3
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Internet forums aren't democracies, they are dictatorships. You'll just have to live with the wrath of markos.

	22-11-2001 07:11									#4
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1) so far people have allowed me to use my own site as just another civer. i'm sorry if you dont find it acceptable
2) that wasnt a personal comment. that was my justification for closing your thread. moderating doesnt just mean moving threads to the right forum. it also means maintaining an interesting forum experience. yet another rant due to a result of the civ3 combat system is far from interesting....

	22-11-2001 07:58									#5
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG 1) so far people have allowed me to use my own site as just another civer. i'm sorry if you dont find it acceptable

I don't find your commentary of an ad hominem nature acceptable. Your the moderator and should not be remotely involved in such things.

quote: 2) that wasnt a personal comment.

What type of comment was it?

quote: that was my justification for closing your thread. moderating doesnt just mean moving threads to the right forum. it also means maintaining an interesting forum experience.

Oh PLEASE. You let AH post the most rambling nonsensical crap EVERYWHERE, why, because you think it's interesting? Better interesting and banal than factual and topical I guess...

quote: yet another rant due to a result of the civ3 combat system is far from interesting....

As opposed to pure crap like "Does Civ3 need more sex appeal..." You leave THAT in Civ3-General and want to get rid of "yet another rant"? Apparently you're aiming for a pretty lowbrow crowd.

Have fun with your toy board then... wouldn't want anyone to point out that Civ3 isn't wearing any clothes and affect your banner ad revenue...

Venger

	22-11-2001 08:00									#6
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Venger...threads complaining about moderation are quite passe. Be a man. Take your punishment. (This would help in the game too...)

	22-11-2001 08:01									#7
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i meant DECEMBER 1969 date. although I think this post will also be ignored

	22-11-2001 08:06									#8
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Oh...and Venger. I'm not jerking your chain. You really will enjoy the board more if you just take the moderation in stride. FYI: I had a thread locked today...and I'm not *****ing...

	22-11-2001 08:46									#9
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Find something better to do with your time, venger. Mark is most certainly allowed to be involved in civ discussions. This site wouldn't be the same if he just worked in the background.

	22-11-2001 09:43									#10
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quote: Originally posted by smellymummy i meant DECEMBER 1969 date. although I think this post will also be ignored

People who were members of Apolyton from the very start were given that joined date due to a bug in the software, or something similar.

	22-11-2001 10:57									#11
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Hey the moderators provide a [relatively] FREE service for ME. They keep it [somewhat] tidy so when I show up and I only have like 5 minutes, I can just check the first couple of pages on a couple of select boards. I would NOT come here if every topic had two thousand threads associated with it.

HOWEVER, Mark closed a thread of mine once...


revenge is a dish best served cold.

	22-11-2001 11:19									#12
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If Markos has time reply this thread, why doesn't he have time or will to read my column contribution or reply finally to my e-mail that I sent him 1 week ago?

Lazy berk!

	22-11-2001 11:27									#13
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triage?

	22-11-2001 11:50									#14
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Venger. Don't know what you are beefing about.
Mark banned me for years and gave me no reason.

I just accepted it and went to Civfanatics.

Now for some equally unknown reason, I can suddenly post again.

	22-11-2001 12:50									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin If Markos has time reply this thread, why doesn't he have time or will to read my column contribution or reply finally to my e-mail that I sent him 1 week ago? Lazy berk!

Rasbelin:

Ten to one odds are you either just added another week or two of "wait" time or maybe even a "delete upon arrival" with that contribution.

CYBERAmazon

	22-11-2001 16:47									#16
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I'm surprised the 'Poly troll gets quoted as an example of moderating kindness. Thats not the attitute I remember.

And Horsie is funny.

	22-11-2001 19:50									#17
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Man, everybody picking on AH lately.

You people Are awful sensitive.

You want to bust Mark's chops?

Mention how much money the site takes in or how the Macedonians aern't REAL Greeks.

Ametuers.

	22-11-2001 20:10									#18
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quote: Originally posted by CYBERAmazon Ten to one odds are you either just added another week or two of "wait" time or maybe even a "delete upon arrival" with that contribution.

Sorry, tough luck. I didn't do that.

	22-11-2001 20:36									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 Man, everybody picking on AH lately.

Well makes a change, they normally pick on me !!!!

	22-11-2001 21:06									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin Well makes a change, they normally pick on me !!!!

Your drawing attention to yourself again, Ras!
Trying for Diety again?

	25-11-2001 06:36									#21
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Obviously moving threads is a crutch forthe weaker moderater.

Who remembers that thread?

	25-11-2001 14:55									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 Your drawing attention to yourself again, Ras! Trying for Diety again?

Only 6000 to go. I give him a month

	25-11-2001 15:00									#23
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nahh too busy playing civ3 now to keep up the good work !!!!

	25-11-2001 18:57									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 Trying for Diety again?

I assume it's more like vice versa in your case, Chris 62.

	25-11-2001 20:29									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin I assume it's more like vice versa in your case, Chris 62.

Wrong again, but at least your consistant.

	25-11-2001 23:15									#26
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consistently is the key to success !!!

	26-11-2001 21:33									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Venger Have fun with your toy board then...

You mean you're leaving Apolyton?

	27-11-2001 00:26									#28
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Hey venger, the reason he closed your thread is because there are twenty more just like it, and if you looked below the first three threads, you might see them.

and the reason mark doesn't delete horsie's threads is BECAUSE there are so many, its not worth the time or effort to fix.

	30-11-2001 09:45									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 Man, everybody picking on AH lately. You people Are awful sensitive. You want to bust Mark's chops? Mention how much money the site takes in or how the Macedonians aern't REAL Greeks. Ametuers.

In Mark's defense - I have tangled with him a bit on the Macedonian issue (in OT, of course) - and he has been extremely tolerant. I really dont see that there is any opinion that doesnt get a fair hearing - I think his muddling of moderator/owner/participant, while it can be a little offputting, is not problem, and its the way this board is run. So live with it or post elsewhere.

LOTM