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Jer8m8 is offline Jer8m8
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a note on one zulu leader:
http://www.onwar.com/aced/chrono/c1...5/fzulu1878.htm

modern zulus
http://www.sn.apc.org/wmail/issues/960404/NEWS23.html

another leader:
In 1884, however, a group of about 200 Boers under Lucas Meyer supported the uSuthu faction under King Dinuzulu; this defeated Zibhebhu at the Battle of eTshaneni, north of the Mkhuze river, on June 5th, 1884. The Boers used this as an excuse to take most of the best Zulu grazing land of eBaqulusini and establish the so-called New Republic. They produced a `treaty', signed by Dinuzulu, ceding the territory. This action was condemned by the British government, which knew from its land commission of November 1878 regarding the disputed ZuluBoer territory west of Mzinyathi (Buffalo) and Ncome (Blood) rivers, that the Zulu king was only the custodian of the land and had no right in Zulu law to cede it. But the British did not immediately intervene, as they saw the Boer-Zulu land issue as one of Christianity against paganism. Instead, on October 22nd, 1886, they recognised the New Republic, and the following year Britain also annexed the Zulu territory north of the Thukela river, establishing magistracies for its administration.

Following the annexation of what remained of the Zulu territory north of the Thukela river and the defeat of the Zulu uprising led by Dinuzulu in June 1888, Dinuzulu was tried for high treason in eShowe and found guilty. In 1890 he was banished to St Helena by the British, together with his uncles, princes Ndabuko and Shingana. In January 1898 Dinuzulu was released from exile but demoted to local government induna with a small reserve of his own in the Ndwandwe magisterial division. His status was similar to that of all Zulu amakhosi in the areas under British rule; he was allowed to try civil and criminal cases but had to present his reports to white magistrates.

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Sevorak

once again great mod, i used it in Blitz v1.06 and gave you proper credit of course

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Sep 2001
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More Babylonian cities if you want them: Teredon, Apologos, Bezabde, Mari, Wassukani (Mitanni, declined during Assyrian rule), Charax Spasinou, Vologesius, Siltace.

PS. Good idea!

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I just got a new computer and I came by to download the city names list again. Thanks, Sevorak!

Mech Assassin is offline Mech Assassin
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Good that someone is doing a mod like this also. Btw, while you're making it, could you fix German city names like Konigsberg to Königsberg, Munich to Münich, Heidelburg to Heidelberg, etc. I'm not German and I don't know really many German city names, but I do know that those are mistyped and belive that there are more.

Almanzor is offline Almanzor
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Ahem! The attachment doesn't download properly. It downloads it as a generic windows file titled attachment.

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Ahem! The attachment doesn't download properly. It downloads it as a generic windows file titled attachment.


Rename the file to "attachement.zip" and you should be able to unzip it

sgrig is offline sgrig
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Nov 2001
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I would just like to point out something in the Russian city list. Sverdlovsk and Ekaterinburg are the same city - Sverdlovsk is just what the city was called in Soviet times, before the Communist Revolution in was Ekaterinburg and currently it is also Ekaterinburg. Similarly Tbilisi and Tiflis are the same city - the current capital of Georgia (country, not US state). Tiflis is the 19th century name for the city.

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Correction on Mech assassin.
The actual name in german for munich is munchen.

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Jan 2002
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Great mod, very useful!

Some more stuff for your next edition(if you want it)

Leaders:

English: Montgomery, Cromwell, Wavell

Americans: Bradley

Germans: Rommel

Japanese: Kuroda, Honda, Takeda, Shimazu, Ishida

French : Guilliame (the conqueror)

Russians: Molotov

And in case you need them and your not from GB:

Cities:

English:

Stevenage
Milton Keynes
Southampton
Bolton
Ipswich
Reading
Hemil Hempstead
Yarmouth
Newquay
Hartlepool
Scunthorpe
Kidderminster
Halifax
Boston (the one in the US was named after it)
Kingston

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Hey, very nice indeed. Have included it in my own mod, called Homeworld. Have added some new leader names which I thought you might like:

Zulu
Buthelezi

Persia
Memnon
Cambyses
Hystaspes
Artaxerxes

China
Chiang Kai-shek
Sun Yat-sen
Guan Yu
Cao Cao
Liu Bei
Yue Fei
Sabotei (he's actually Mongol, like Genghis and Kubla)

Rome
Scipio Afrikanus
Valens

Germany
von Moltke
Frederick the Great
Guderian
Arminus

Babylon
Tiglath-pileser III
Assurnasirpal
Shalmaneser III
Sargon II
(All actually Assyrian, but so was Ashurbanipal)

Russia
Gorshkov
Suvorov

Japan
Togo
Yamashita
Tokugawa
Minamoto

France
Lafayette

America
Eisenhower
Powell
Schwarzkopf

England
de la Billiere (the Brit senior commander during the Gulf War)
Arthur (there was mention of an Arthur who led the Brits against the Roman invader)
Woodward (the guy in charge of the Falklands War)
Kitchener (in charge, Boer War)
Cromwell

Greece
Demosthenes
Philip
Parmenio
Hephaestion
Ptolemy
(Last four are Macedonian, but so is Alexander!)

Enjoy!

Elucidus is offline Elucidus
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I hope I am not stepping on any toes here, but for those who want to include this wonderful mod in their already created bics, I have created an excel document, each tab is a different civ's city names. They are already highlighted; just copy and past into the Bic, but remember to remove the last line after you paste it, excel wants to put a character return at the end. I don't know how that would effect the game, but I recommend removing it.

Attachment: city names.zip
This has been downloaded 55 time(s).

Mizaq is offline Mizaq
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you can also cut and paste from a txt file into the city box. I keep a list of cities in a .txt and then just paste it into my mods, one group for each civ.

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Yeah, I just thought an excel file with a seperate tab for each civ would be easier to use. Either way though, it's just a matter of preference.

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Mar 2002
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More leaders for Zulu if there's need:

Dingiswayo. Can't say he was that great one, and also belonged to another tribe (but to the same Nguni tribes with Zulu), but at least Zulu (Shaka too) gave their allegiance to him during a civil war when Shaka was young.

Mhlangana was the other power thirsty brother of Shaka.

Mpande, Dingane's half brother had Dingane killed and led Zulu over 30 years. He had two sons, Cetshwayo and Mbuyazi, which led armies against each other in their turn, Cetshwayo being the winner after the death of over 23000 warriors in an one day battle. Must have been fierce fighting with assegais man against man with no machine guns and grenades.

Dinizulu followed Cetshwayo, ruled 31 years (till 1913). Then Soloman till 1948, followed by Cyprian. Goodwill Zwelethini is their King at the moment.

annd thanks for the mod man

Kuitenkin is offline Kuitenkin
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About the spelling...

Since Civ 3 is a game in English, it uses the English versions of city and leader names and they sometimes differ from the original. The ones we are used to include Athens, Rome, Moscow, Vienna, Prague and Carthage while the likes of Lyons, Munich, Nuremberg and Seville may seem less familiar.

I'm from Finland and throughout our nation's history, Viipuri has been one of its most important cities (the Russians conquered it in WWII, though). Despite its little historical significance on the world scale, the city has an English name "Vyborg" that we Finns find strange (and most of us aren't even aware that such a name exists), so I know how you people feel about your "misspelled" cities.

Firaxis and Infogrames publish a product (be it a book or a computer game) so they have to insist that the names in it are "correct". My point is that having some of the names in their original forms and the rest translated in English is quite awkward. Some of the names you've corrected are real typos, but Aristotle, Marseilles and Joan of Arc are correct, English names. If we rename Munich to München, we should also rename Athens to Athinai and Iroquois names to something really exotic.

Cologne is in Germany, but Köln is in Deutschland.


Anyway, thanks for the city names, Sevorak.

Jer8m8 is offline Jer8m8
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About the spelling...

Since Civ 3 is a game in English, it uses the English versions of city and leader names and they sometimes differ from the original. The ones we are used to include Athens, Rome, Moscow, Vienna, Prague and Carthage while the likes of Lyons, Munich, Nuremberg and Seville may seem less familiar.

I'm from Finland and throughout our nation's history, Viipuri has been one of its most important cities (the Russians conquered it in WWII, though). Despite its little historical significance on the world scale, the city has an English name "Vyborg" that we Finns find strange (and most of us aren't even aware that such a name exists), so I know how you people feel about your "misspelled" cities.

Firaxis and Infogrames publish a product (be it a book or a computer game) so they have to insist that the names in it are "correct". My point is that having some of the names in their original forms and the rest translated in English is quite awkward. Some of the names you've corrected are real typos, but Aristotle, Marseilles and Joan of Arc are correct, English names. If we rename Munich to München, we should also rename Athens to Athinai and Iroquois names to something really exotic.

Cologne is in Germany, but Köln is in Deutschland.


Anyway, thanks for the city names, Sevorak.


No offense, but you do realise the last post is 3 months old and the main posts are from last year?

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No offense, but you do realise the last post is 3 months old and the main posts are from last year?


Maybe he was looking at files and read some of the thread and felt like he wanted to respond or make a point that hasnt been made.

Jer8m8 is offline Jer8m8
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Maybe he was looking at files and read some of the thread and felt like he wanted to respond or make a point that hasnt been made.


But still, its says something if I haven't played civ3 in months and months...and someone replies to a thread I posted in.

BTW, Europa Universalis is awesome

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Maybe he was looking at files and read some of the thread and felt like he wanted to respond or make a point that hasnt been made.


Heh, exactly.

Well, I haven't played Civ 3 for months either. Been busy and had problems with my comp.

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HiYa Sevorak, great work! Lots of people (including me!) are in your debt.

I see the last date of anyone posting is some time back, and pre-1.29 patch.

My question: Does your latest version 3.15 contain the rules for the last Civ3 patch 1.29f or no? If it does I can use it as the base to work from for my modifications, otherwise I will want to paste out the list of city names and leaders in it, into my developed mod so I'm playing with the 1.29 ruleset.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to post a reply.

Civ on.

Jer8m8 is offline Jer8m8
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...

I just happen to be passing by and I see this...

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hey... i just discovered this... so alls i do is rename this to "civ3mod.bic" and i'm good to go?

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Hey, gratters for taking the initiative to deal with the dearth of city names in the game. In keeping with this spirit, I have a request- the city names for the Chinese could stand some polishing. not only are there misspellings, but outright errors - xinjian (should be xinjiang, even though this is the name for Chinese Turkestan) being the most grating instance. The city names also have little to do with Chinese history, as the major cities of China today are often the products of recent phenomena. Macao was founded by the portugese, hong kong by the british... shanghai was a minor trading town until the opium wars. None of them reflect the urban feats of the Chinese at the height of their power. I would suggest that the cities are re-named in this order to reflect the ancient capitals and other major commercial hubs from the Han dynasty onward.

Chang-an -- the capital in the early Han, Sui, and Tang - Rome of China
Luoyang -- the capital in the late Han and the Jin
Xuchang -- the capital of the Wei Kingdom
Jiankang -- the capital of the Wu Kingdom and the early Ming. now Nanjing.
Chengdu -- the capital of the Shu Kingdom
Bianjing -- the capital of the early Song. Now Kaifeng.
Lin-an -- the port capital of the late Song. Now Hangzhou
Beijing -- the capital since the early Ming
Yangzhou -- major commercial center since the Sui
Suzhou -- major commercial center since the Tang
Guangzhou -- major commercial port since the Han
Wuxi -- major commercial center since the Song
Taiyuan -- major commercial center during the Qing
Ningbo -- major commercial port since the Qing
Fuzhou -- major commercial port since the Song
Quanzhou -- major commerical port since the Song
Chaozhou -- major commerical port since the Song
Xiangyang -- major commercial center since the Han
Wuchang -- major commercial center since the Ming
Anyang -- seat of the Shang feudal king.
Chongqing
Wenzhou
Guiyang
Nanchang
Zhengzhou
Liaoyang
Kunming
Ji-nan
Huizhou
Lanzhou

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one last thing - my laptop doesnt believe in apostrophes. where you see a hyphen in a city name, replace with an apostrophe if you want to be all accurate and stuff.

cheers,

-finley

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An update for the new civs in PtW would be greatly appreciated. Suggestions?

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An update for the new civs in PtW would be greatly appreciated. Suggestions?


Yeah, that'll be nice, though I can't help

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Nov 2002
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If you do still have Civ2, try to intall it and look in the city.txt file. Microprose, the maker of Civ2 had collected many citynames of civs, like the arabs, the spanish, the celts, the turks, the carthaginians, the mongols and the vikings.
Only the koreans were not contained in Civ2

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Have a look here:

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Suggestions welcome in that thread.

 
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