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Sevorak is offline Sevorak
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Nov 2001
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So I'm playing against the Germans one game, and they've founded 13 or so cities. A settler plops his pack down near my borders. "New Berlin". Oh, they add a New afterwards. All right, New Berlin, New Stuttgart, I can handle this.

Some turns later he's founding yet another city. I casually look at the name. "Berlin 2".

Huh?

That sounds like a movie sequel, not a city name. Who'd name their city Berlin 2?

Just so I could avoid seeing that kind of thing, I quickly opened the editor and added some city names for each civ. Now most civs can go well into fifty cities before I start seeing "2" as part of a city name. Much better. Yeah, I know it's not much of a mod, but it's not trying to be.

This doesn't change the rules of the game in any way. It does 3 things:

1. Adds more city names
2. Corrects the spelling of "Odysseus" in Greek Leaders
3. Corrects the spelling of "Phoenician" and "Teotihuacan" in the Barbarian tribes.

-Sev

first attachment edited out after 388 downloads
second attachment edited out after 272 downloads
third edited out after 85 downloads

VERSION 3.0

1. Adds enough city names to bring every civilization except the Babylonians (~45) to 50+ unique city names. Thanks to Hastur for the Iroquois name source (a grab bag of the five nations village names was used).

2. Corrects the spellings of misspelled Great Leaders, which now correctly read "Skenandoah", "Boadicea", "Odysseus", and "Richthofen".

3. Corrects misspelled barbarian tribes, so they now correctly read "Teotihuacan", "Phoenician", "Kazakh", "Etruscan", and "Mycenaean".

4. Fixes the name of the French leader, which was oddly half-Anglicized in release. She is now named "Jeanne d'Arc" i.e. completely de-Anglicized.

5. Accent added to Tenochtitlán. Accent mark also added to Orléans. Removed the "s" from the end of Lyon and Marseille. Removed Erech from the Babylonian list; it's just an alternative spelling for Uruk.

6. Added Great Leaders to round out every civ's list to six except for the Zulu (no source). Removed Khufu from the Egyptian list (Cheops and Khufu are the same person), added Thutmose. Added a few more Iliad names for the Greeks, Agamemnon, Menelaus, and Achilles. Removed Hengest and Horsa from the German list and added Rommel, Bluecher, Ludendorff, and Clausewitz (yes I know he was Prussian, but he's a famous military kind of guy ). Added Koniev to the end of the Russian list. Added Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, Meiji, and Yamamoto to the Japanese list. Added Louis XIV, Davout, and Ney to the French list. Added Mardonius, Zopyrus and Masistius to the Persian list. Added Joseph Brant to the end of the Iroquois list (again, not being very accurate here, but the game Iroquois aren't supposed to be really Iroquois anyway). Hit a wall with the Zulu - all I know is that Dingane, one of the Leaders already in there, actually was Shaka's brother that succeeded in assassinating him. Oh well.

Version 3.16f

Incorporates all patch changes. In addition to above:

7. Corrects the spelling of Genghis Khan. It's not universally accepted, but that spelling is generally seen as correct. "Ghengis Kahn" is just...bad.

-Sev

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This has been downloaded 3521 time(s).

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kokomo is offline kokomo
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Nov 2001
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Hey.... thnx for it... it sounds pretty boring to watch towns with those stupid names

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OK, I'll bite. How do I use this? There is no 'citynames.bic' file in the game. Is this a euphemism for the 'civ3mod.bic' file? I would like to have more names here. When I played the Zulu I ran out pretty quick.

Sevorak is offline Sevorak
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Nov 2001
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Xerxes2,

Yes, this is a civ3mod.bic. Rename it to civ3mod.bic to use it. I named it citynames.bic so that people wouldn't accidentally overwrite their old civ3mod.bic (especially if it had customized alterations).

-Sev

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Nov 2001
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Updated to even more city names (call it city names 2.0 if you want).

First post details.

-Sev

chiren is offline chiren
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Nov 2001
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small german mistake

its Richthofen !! not Richthoffen
and who or what is Hengest ??

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Is this patch compatible with unofficial Civ1.8 patch or one can't work with another?

Pyrodrew is offline Pyrodrew
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Some turns later he's founding yet another city. I casually look at the name. "Berlin 2". Huh?
This raises the number of unique city names to more than 50 for every civilization other than the Babylonians (~39) and Iroquois (no additions, since I can't find a source for Iroquois city names).


My biggest concern was whether the ones you added were real city names or not. Thank you for stating you used real city names for the additions.

Ribannah had no additional city names for the Iroquois?

Sytass is offline Sytass
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Nov 2001
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I added a chunk of city names for me, too, along with some leaders:
Montgomery, Cromwell for the English
Hindenburg, Rommel, Bluecher, Ludendorff for the Germans
Scipio Africanus for the Romans

Each civilization now has at least 32 city names. Which was not too easy with the Zulu.

Sevorak is offline Sevorak
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Nov 2001
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chiren,

I didn't really get into the leader names much, except for switching Sun Tzu to the top of the Chinese list, fixing Skenandoah, and that egregious "Ulysess" they had at the end of the Greek list. But I'll keep the Richthofen spelling fix in mind for the next version.

abogusla,

I'm not sure what you refer to. If you refer to a different civ3mod.bic, well, you won't be able to use the two files simultaneously. But if you download this .bic file, you can copy and paste names between the two.

Pyrodrew,

Yep, they're all real, in that a settlement was or is named by those names. Varennes, for example, in the French list, so far as I know was a pretty small town, but is historically significant because they caught Louis there when he was trying to run. But in all cases, the names were acquired by research and not by imagination

I took the Skenandoah fix off a post made in the Official Apolyton Bug List, where city names weren't mentioned. If Ribannah can supply me with sources for Iroquois city names, I certainly wouldn't mind adding some.

Thanks for the feedback!

-Sev

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Nov 2001
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chiren,

Hengest and Horsa are the names of the mythical leaders of the Anglo-Saxon (post-Roman) Germanic invasion of Britain. I think their names are first mentioned in Bede's Ecclesiastical History of the English-Speaking Peoples. I was extremely surprised to see them as leaders, especially in the German list.

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Good work.

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Pardon me for asking what may be obvious, but I have no experience using mods yet, much less making them, and I can't find a "Mods for Dummies" FAQ. So, I'm wondering if there's an easy way to combine elements from several mods?

For example, how do you add the extended city names list to someone else's mod? Do you have to cut-and-paste from one .bic to another? Or am I missing something?

Sevorak is offline Sevorak
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Nov 2001
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Purple,

Just go into the Civilizations tab, select the list, copy, open the other .bic file, select list, paste. Nothing more to it.

-Sev

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That's what I thought. I guess I was hoping for some turnkey-type operation that would overlay one mod on top of another without making the changes manually.

Thanks for your work on this, Sev.

korn469 is offline korn469
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Sevorak

with your permission i am going to use your city name mod in my Blitz mod, ok?

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chiren,

Hengest and Horsa are the names of the mythical leaders of the Anglo-Saxon (post-Roman) Germanic invasion of Britain. I think their names are first mentioned in Bede's Ecclesiastical History of the English-Speaking Peoples. I was extremely surprised to see them as leaders, especially in the German list.


mmhh - i wasnt sure about hengest.
if they were anglo-saxons they should be english leaders. firaxis made a strange choice there. there are so many others who lead german armys (even many who werent nazis) like rommel

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"there are so many others who lead german armys (even many who werent nazis) like rommel"

*points to his previous post*

Feel free to add them anytime.

Sevorak is offline Sevorak
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korn469,

Sure. As long as you sneak a credit in there somewhere, feel free to use it. I'm working on a third version (with some Iroquois city names I found masquerading as county names) and some more leader names, you might want to wait a couple days for that.

I also just noticed that I somehow uncorrected "Teotihuacan" in the second version, I haven't the faintest idea how I did that, but it'll be fixed in the third.

-Sev

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mhh - i wasnt sure about hengest.


Isn't that - Hengist?

Marla is offline Marla
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Hey, Great work !

I've found it really funny when I started to found ski resorts as new cities !! Meribel, Tignes, Val d'Isère... French Alps rule !
By the way, where have you find all that old names of french cities? Vaucresson, Saulieu, etc.... ?

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Sevorak and all others in this thread. I'm currently working on the ExtraPack and plan also to change the city names, leaders of the existing Civs. I'll start a thread on those changes tomorrow night and invite everybody to join in and propose city names for the lists and names for the leaders.

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Here's a good site I found for historic Iroquois city names...

Iroquois History

Hope this helps!

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Sevorak is offline Sevorak
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Updated again, this time with new leader names and a few altered city names as well. Details at the top.

-Sev

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Sevorak, you've answered a prayer! I think I'll wait until after the patch to download, however.

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Sev, you get my 5-star rating for your attention to detail and accuracy, not to mention persistence!

Thanks!

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Thanx for your mod !

While testing the earth map I've made, I've been in front of the city names problem. I would love to use your names for the map, can I have your agreement ? (PLEEEAAASE ! SAY YES !)


By the way, great idea for the accent on Orléans and the s removed from Lyon and Marseille ! I did it on my game and each time a city was founded they proposed me to name it Orleans... which was quite boring.
About french great leaders, I think Clemenceau would be a smart choice as it was the leader of french armies during the world war 1 (at least we won that one). I like a lot that guy, he has a really smart point of view on world issues at that time...

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well done...

although i prefer using my atlas to get the city names coorect per our world map rather tha nbeing civ specific....

but for when im lazy and dont want to rename city syour lsit is coming in very handy !!!

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Updated for the patch.

v 3.16f

at the top.

Marla, same goes for you as for any other map/mod/bic maker. Feel free. It's not as if I own the city names. I would appreciate a credit somewhere, though.

-Sev

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Downloaded the mod, very good...
Some other threads:
On leaders:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=31297

More city names:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=36840

 
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