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Boney
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Thailand
Jan 2001 time: 05:16
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Is it really worth the time and effort to replace coal plants with hydro plants. All that wasted production. Pollution did not even seem to get any lesser. Now if coal plants were not replaced, but augmented by additional hydro plants that would be different.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000 time: 07:16
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I never bother building Coal Plants, except in a few wonder producing cities. Just get the Hoover Dam and your problems are solved.
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HunterAssasin
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I do the same as Boney I just don't want to deal with the pullution coal plants give.
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Signless
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well, I like build faster if I have those.
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Mister Hand
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Nuclear plants do give you a 150% bonus. However, there is the risk of meltdown. I've not had a meltdown yet, but I assume it's very very bad.
What bugs me is that if I build a hydro plant, coal plant still appears on my menu. A hydro plant should be considered an upgrade to a coal plant. There's no reason to switch back.
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jack_frost
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this took me a little time to figure out myself. The civlopedia informs us: hydro plants require a source of water.
So even after you build a hoover dam you will still need coal plants in many cities.
Yet another wonder nerf'd.
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Elucidus
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quote: Originally posted by jack_frost
this took me a little time to figure out myself. The civlopedia informs us: hydro plants require a source of water.
So even after you build a hoover dam you will still need coal plants in many cities.
Yet another wonder nerf'd. |
Hoover damn gives hydro plants to ALL cities on the continent, even those without water access.
What it means by access to water is that in order to BUILD the hoover dam you have to have water nearby.
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jack_frost
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I was suprised too, since thats how it worked in civ2.
Look again.
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jack_frost
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i'm wrong - Elucidus is right.
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Zorkk
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Great Underground Empire
Nov 2001 time: 22:16
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I have to beg to differ on this one....
Building the Hoover Dam, gives hydro power to all cities that would be ABLE to build a hydro power planet. IE, that city MUST have access to water, more specifically a river. (i have one city with a lake 1 square diagonally left (west) and I can only build a coal plant there.
In my gmae last night, I just build the hydro plant, and when i look around after, any city that didn't have a river in it's immediate (1tile) vicinity, had no hydro plant, and I had the option to build a coal plant.
Zorkk
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jack_frost
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I thought so too, but I just checked in my last game and a city which didn't have access to water had a hydro plant.
Maybe I'm mistaken here, and there was a bit of river somewhere nearby.
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Elucidus
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No, for the hoover dam it doesn't matter per city, just the one that builds it. For a hydro plant, though, it depends on each city trying to build one. I wasn't sure when I first built the hoover damn and so I checked. Sure enough land-locked cities had a hydro plant.
Try making a wonder have the effect of building a harbor in all of your cities. Now that looks funny. All your land-locked cities have a harbor. Check the city view screen for a real laugh.
Glad I could be of some help, guys. Happy gaming.
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Zorkk
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Great Underground Empire
Nov 2001 time: 22:16
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Hmmm...
I'm gonna check this out in my game when i get home, with screenshots, so everyone's certain!
Zorkk
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Elucidus
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I would say try it again in another city. This time keep track of shields produced.
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Elucidus
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quote: Originally posted by Zorkk
Hmmm...
I'm gonna check this out in my game when i get home, with screenshots, so everyone's certain!
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Yeah, I'd love to post screen shots, but I am not there yet in my current game. I will if I get there and no else has posted screenies yet.
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Drathx
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Dallas TX
Nov 2001 time: 05:16
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I had a nuclear plant meltdown on me in my tournament game. I switched to democracy thinking a long war would be over for good but I was dragged right back in and the people let me hear it. Tons of cities were in disorder and one of my big ones had a meltdown. It was just as if a nuclear bomb went off, population was cut in half, 8 tiles of polution, all improvements on those tiles burned away and changed to plains... It was nasty. Take care of your nuclear cities!
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Zorkk
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Great Underground Empire
Nov 2001 time: 22:16
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And you should probably sell that coal plant ASAP. In the game that I got the screen shot from (btw.. i made all the people entertainers so it would be eaiswer to see there was NO water nearby at all) I did a test, and built a coal, and a solar plant in a city. That city gained NO extra production bonus'. So if you can be sure of building the HD wonder, then it's est not to build any coal plants
Even if i didn't get HD, i'd probably wait, and go for solar plants over coal plants, that way i know the pollution is less.
Zorkk
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