26-11-2001 03:39									#1
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I'v made a little change to the mine graphics in the game.
i cut off the little wagon in front of the mine, and made the mine a bit greener, and brighter, so it will fit more naturally into the background.

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	26-11-2001 03:41									#2
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original mines

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	26-11-2001 03:42									#3
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the change

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	26-11-2001 04:07									#4
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Looks a bit cleaner on the map now.

It took a moment to realize that those little buildings were mines and not some sort of settlement. Could you replace those mines with some clear abstract symbol for mining instead?

	26-11-2001 18:56									#5
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Ahhh yes ... thank you ... the original mine graphics are annoying only because the AI clear cuts forest and build's mines everywhere.

Zeb

	26-11-2001 21:10									#6
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I couldn't help thinking the original ones look like skulls.

	27-11-2001 03:19									#7
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yeah, a simple abstract marking would be nice.

Like a small pickaxe

	27-11-2001 04:19									#8
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Damn AI, why does it turn the map so ugly?

	27-11-2001 04:21									#9
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sorry....stupid double post

	27-11-2001 04:25									#10
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I think you work is great.

I do NOT think that making little icons to repersent mines is a good idea. What's the point in that? Is it not obvious enough already ??

Let me guess, the next step will be to replace all the units with little white boxes in which will be written their stats, right? GIVE ME A BREAK !!! Aesthetics are one thing that makes Civ 3 great, and if the game isn't visually stimulating, its missing something - nothing big, but lets keep the graphics how they intended it.

Lets not forget that the game has been out for a little under a month now, and Sid's team have been playtesting it for months before the release - lets give them some credit ! (this last paragraph should also be read by all those creators who are constantly changing the game to make it 'work better' ... i dunno, but the people at Firaxis have been making the game for years now and although i think some things need to be tweaked, lets give them time guys ... THEY DESERVE OUR THANKS AND RESPECT !)

Anybody agree with me ??

Thats my rant for today
Good Gaming everyone
Cheers
~Alex

	27-11-2001 04:56									#11
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Hey no one is forcing you to use this mod :P

	27-11-2001 05:41									#12
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quote: Originally posted by ThaddeusAlexander I think you work is great. I do NOT think that making little icons to repersent mines is a good idea. What's the point in that? Is it not obvious enough already ?? Let me guess, the next step will be to replace all the units with little white boxes in which will be written their stats, right? GIVE ME A BREAK !!! Aesthetics are one thing that makes Civ 3 great, and if the game isn't visually stimulating, its missing something - nothing big, but lets keep the graphics how they intended it. Lets not forget that the game has been out for a little under a month now, and Sid's team have been playtesting it for months before the release - lets give them some credit ! (this last paragraph should also be read by all those creators who are constantly changing the game to make it 'work better' ... i dunno, but the people at Firaxis have been making the game for years now and although i think some things need to be tweaked, lets give them time guys ... THEY DESERVE OUR THANKS AND RESPECT !) Anybody agree with me ?? Thats my rant for today Good Gaming everyone Cheers ~Alex

I demand you stop making maps!

They at Firaxis have been working months and investing thousands of dollars in the two maps they shipped the game with and game is less than one month at the shops.


Good pic for the mines. Im gonna use it with Snoopy's terain mod.

	27-11-2001 05:43									#13
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This change should really make the map less crowded.

	27-11-2001 17:27									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Bakunine I demand you stop making maps! They at Firaxis have been working months and investing thousands of dollars in the two maps they shipped the game with and game is less than one month at the shops. Good pic for the mines. Im gonna use it with Snoopy's terain mod.

A-Ha! Different situation !!

With the game, they also shipped a little program known as the EDITOR thus giving people permission to make maps! Besides, I'm not altering anything gameplay oriented, just making maps.

And what I'm specifically fighting here is the icons instead of mines - i have no problem with the work this guy did on changing the look of the mines, i just don't want people to go insane and iconize everything! Grrr

So you don't agree with me? You'd like the little white boxes with numbers in it? heck they do the same thing, right????

Good Gaming
~A.

	27-11-2001 17:29									#15
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P.S Does nobody agree with me ? Does nobody want to give Sid's team respect? oh well ...

Again, I have your mines downloaded and i'm using them - they fit better now, thanks !

~A.

	27-11-2001 19:53									#16
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quote: Does nobody agree with me ? Does nobody want to give Sid's team respect? oh well ...

Well i don't think iconizing stuff is showing disrespect althought i wouldn't iconize it. Could make smaller,tiny mines or whatever but iconize not.

I'm not altering anything gameplay oriented

Thatīs why i only use graphicall mods or small graphic changes. They do not alter gameplay.

Anyway good work you made on those maps.

Good gaming to you too.

	27-11-2001 20:20									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Bakunine I'm not altering anything gameplay oriented Thatīs why i only use graphicall mods or small graphic changes. They do not alter gameplay. Anyway good work you made on those maps. Good gaming to you too.

I don't mind small graphic changes ... sn00py's raised land is great (in my opinion), and these mines are as well. Evan's mood badges are a good idea too, in my mind. But I just don't like the idea of totally disbanding something in place of an Icon, and I know that nobody has yet done that - but people on this thread are/were talking about it so i just had to say something.

Graphic changes are taste-oriented, and I don't expect the Civ creation and art team to be able to appease everyone. They did their best, and some people (including myself) like pretty much everything ... but small changes that I like that people have taken the time and effort to create, I download and use.

You can argue opinions all you want, but defending them is impossible

But i'm still against all these major mods people are coming out with ... personally, i can wait for the patch that is supposedly coming out next week (keep your fingers crossed! )

Cheers!
~Alex

	28-11-2001 04:34									#18
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The two maps that came with the game where totally pants. Actually, i havnt really looked at the standard size one but the huge map of earth is rubbish - a very poor representation.

Lucky for him this isnt a soviet world or he'd be surely branded enemy of the people and exiled to siberia for that

By the way, firaxis map designer - perhaps its not too late to redeem yourself - maybe if you actually design a decent map you will have a clear consciensce again!