27-11-2001 06:40									#1
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Will there be a hotseat option for MOO3 ?
I know it has multiplayer but the greatest thing is to play a turn based game via hotseat while chatting with your friend, watching movies while the other one has his turn and haveing a good time on a weekend ;p
Beside i cant think of a real problem implementing hotseat into a turn based game (like MOO2) yet there are lots of games out now without this ability.

	27-11-2001 09:49									#2
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No hotseat in Moo3. With combat using a real time style engine, there's no real way to implement hot seat.

	27-11-2001 18:02									#3
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I always wondered myself why aren't 2 mice supported for multi-play capability?
I spent a lot of fun time with my friends playing strategy hotseat games, and my opinion is that there isn't any game that could not implement "hotseat".
I believe that it's not possible to make it a more-than-2-players game, but sometimes that's just enough for a fun experience.

If there's still time, at least let 2 players play on the same machine, please!

Edit: Just changed "mouses" to "mice"

Last edited by Zealot on 27-11-2001 at 23:33

	27-11-2001 22:17									#4
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You'd also want two monitors and two keyboards. At that point why not just have your friend bring his computer over and LAN them together and sit side by side?

Besides, wouldn't it take a fair amount of coding to allow a computer to read two mice simultaneously? I'm no expert though.

With non-turn based combat system, there just isn't any reasonable way to get more than one player at a computer.

Instead of hotseating, throw a LAN party. They're lots of fun.

	27-11-2001 22:20									#5
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Hotseat rules.

Some of my best gaming memories are from High School. Sitting around the kitchen table with a bunch of my friends playing Risk while one person takes thier turn on whatever computer game we were playing at the time. It was amazing how well Hotseat worked and how much fun we had.

Sammual

	27-11-2001 22:33									#6
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I thought Stormhound mentioned that there will be hotseat in MOO3.

	28-11-2001 00:31									#7
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Not unless I typoed, I didn't. Hotseat has been excluded as a possibility for as long as I've been aware of the game (since June 2000).

	28-11-2001 00:53									#8
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But why not?

If both human players try to control a same combat, then AI should handle both players fleets.

And players should just watch.


P.S.
These things are NOT HARD to implement.
In fact, Hotseat MP is the easiest MP to make.

At lest, could you give as some kind of "unofficial" Hotseat?
Or at least in Expansion Pack?


Pity, this way I won't ever play a MP game of Orion 3.
Since I have bad internet connection & don't have second PC.

I liked playing a MOO2 Hotseat (very much).

	28-11-2001 01:05									#9
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I'm not sure how satisfactory your solution would be to players...especially the one who felt he got cheated somehow because he didn't get to direct the battle that he said he wanted to, and ended up losing it.

There's also the problem of just how many times you want to have to hop in and out of the chair just to get one turn done. Alan would've loved to have done hotseat, but didn't see a reasonable way to make it so. At this point, the die is cast and you're not going to see that particular feature.

(I will not make any comments about the topic of "expansion packs", other than to say that I won't make any further comments because I'm not interested in speculating on something of which I have no firm knowledge.)

	28-11-2001 07:44									#10
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When the game comes out I have a feeling that there will be a 3rd party app that allows Hotseat (If this is remotly possible) for 2 players.

One of my friends has been playing around w/ a home grown app (a MOD of a firewall software) that *Might* allow for 2 people to play on 1 computer. If you take very slow turns the other player may kill you.

Sammual

	28-11-2001 14:13									#11
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To me,
It is better to have ANY KIND of Hotseat, then to have NONE HOTSEAT at ALL.

Long turns, many interrupts, anything wouldn't stop me from plaing even a worst type of Hotset.

	28-11-2001 20:20									#12
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Hotseat is indeed excellent, but what can you do? It's too late now. Perhaps in some expansion.

	28-11-2001 20:50									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Stormhound There's also the problem of just how many times you want to have to hop in and out of the chair just to get one turn done. Alan would've loved to have done hotseat, but didn't see a reasonable way to make it so.

IMO, MOO 2 has the best Hotseat game ever made. Play it and learn from it!

Seriously now, if in MOO 2 the battles were at the end of the turn, why couldn't it be done in the same way in MOO 3?

I know Alan has surely thought about it, it's just that I would like to hear the official "excuse"!

	28-11-2001 21:01									#14
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Oh, BTW, my hotseat games (usually) never involve human fighting. Because we are all watching each other's playing.

I mean, each player has his own chair, so we don't lose time getting up and stuff.
We kick the AI's butt, and go for Antares! So by the end of the day, we didn't backstab anyone and we still are all friends.