28-11-2001 10:14									#1
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Well......I just heard the most damning evidence against evolution ever.

Mathematicians have set it is impossible that man could have walked the earth for 3 million years. According to them.if this was the case..the population should be roughly around 500,000 per SQUARE mile ...putting the total population on earth well above 5 trillion instead of billion.....

Darwin whores, Explain yourselves here

	28-11-2001 10:17									#2
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I'm sure the explanation will involve something like natural factors mitigating against population increases, as well as lack of agricultural technology, high infant mortality, low life expectancy, etc.

Not that I agree with evolution, I'm just guessing their arguments

	28-11-2001 10:18									#3
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faded glory, ask them this:

Which is more likely: Evolution, or someone snapping his fingers and creating us out of prehistoric playdough.

And yes, I think they were assuming that there's no deaths before age 75 or something.

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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd I'm sure the explanation will involve something like natural factors mitigating against population increases, as well as lack of agricultural technology, high infant mortality, low life expectancy, etc. Not that I agree with evolution, I'm just guessing their arguments

all these factors were taken into account.....war...famine..disease...old age...

it doesnt add up (as usaul)


I dont believe in Evolution or Creation. I think theres a third choice out there still.....well find it

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quote: Originally posted by faded glory I dont believe in Evolution or Creation. I think theres a third choice out there still.....well find it

Yes, let's put more funding into SETI.

	28-11-2001 10:21									#6
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory all these factors were taken into account.....war...famine..disease...old age... it doesnt add up (as usaul)

And sorry, that's bullshit.

There's no way that's possible. How are they to know what kind of famines or diseases occured millions of years ago?

It's religious propaganda, take it for what it is.

Plus, by simple logic: if you crowd people that closely, they become berserk and kill each other until only a few are left.

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Well look how much the population grew in the last 2,000 years. You make up your own mind........ (afraid what you might conclude?)

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Wasn't there a cataclysmic event that wiped out most of humanity, which explains the low genetic variation between modern humans?


I was watching someone on Discovery or PBS, something like that was mentioned.

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quote: Originally posted by Kyle Wasn't there a cataclysmic event that wiped out most of humanity, which explains the low genetic variation between modern humans? I was watching someone on Discovery or PBS, something like that was mentioned.

[sarcasm]

You mean the great flood 13,000 years ago?

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	28-11-2001 10:25									#10
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Well look how much the population grew in the last 2,000 years. You make up your own mind........ (afraid what you might conclude?)

And look at how far technology has come, life expectancy, etc.

The effects of Darwinism are actually nonexistant now for humans. The government protects the humans who should be killed off by nature, so we've got tons of weak people reproducing exponentially and whatnot.

faded glory, it's obvious that you've been pretty much brainwashed with this whole thing, so maybe you should make up your own mind.

	28-11-2001 10:26									#11
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Silly wabbit.

quote: Mathematicians have set it is impossible that man could have walked the earth for 3 million years.

He hasn't. Man has only been aroud 200 000yrs or so. Circa 3 MYA we were barely looking at H.Habilus.

Show me the math, and I'll analyze specifics. I know a thing or two about it.

	28-11-2001 10:27									#12
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The math is out there with the logic which is in his source which is not named.

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"all these factors were taken into account... war... famine... disease... old age..."

-Then the model they used is no good. Because any model should take into account overcrowding. That increases the death rate until it exceeds the birth rate, leading to a cap on population.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher And look at how far technology has come, life expectancy, etc. The effects of Darwinism are actually nonexistant now for humans. The government protects the humans who should be killed off by nature, so we've got tons of weak people reproducing exponentially and whatnot.

thats a load of crap.

If humans lived for 3 million years there would have been a little over a trillion of us around 0 ad. Think about it man.....

	28-11-2001 10:29									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Victor Galis "all these factors were taken into account... war... famine... disease... old age..." -Then the model they used is no good. Because any model should take into account overcrowding. That increases the death rate until it exceeds the birth rate, leading to a cap on population.

But wait!!!!! There is seemingly no proof of us ever being overcrowded


See how big these holes are that im poking?

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quote: Originally posted by faded glory If humans lived for 3 million years there would have been a little over a trillion of us around 0 ad. Think about it man.....

Er, I have thought about it.
Note the post above, the 3 million years thing is WAY off to begin with.

Then there's NO WAY for them to know life expectancy in any of those given years, or if there was a major outbreak of some said disease in those years.

There's WAY too many unknowns for any such calculation to be reliable.

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quote: Originally posted by faded glory See how big these holes are that im poking?

Actually, no.

And if Darwinism still worked, faded glory, you'd be taken out a few nights ago when you were driving drunk.

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"If humans lived for 3 million years there would have been a little over a trillion of us around 0 ad. Think about it man..."

-Look at it this way, a single bacterium can reproduce into a number of bacteria having a mass equal to that of the Earth in under a year. Why doesn't it? There's nothing to feed that many, and they die off.

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Do your math

If 2 people are born in africa and humans come from there. Think...say the 2 people have 3 kids. live for 30 years....etc and there kids have 3 kids each in a 10 year span which was average. subtract and multiply them accordingly 3 million times. Throw in your random death variables.....

well? It sure as hell isnt in the billions....


So what was up? The Cave men have low sperm counts?

	28-11-2001 10:35									#20
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Do your math If 2 people are born in africa and humans come from there. Think...say the 2 people have 3 kids. live for 30 years....etc and there kids have 3 kids each. subtract and multiply them accordingly 3 million times. well? It sure as hell isnt in the billions....

Do YOUR math.
Disease outbreak, kills 90% of the children.
Due to lack of rain there's no harvest, thousands die.
etc.

Add in all of those factors, and I bet you'll get a number looking pretty close to 6 Billion.

	28-11-2001 10:37									#21
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Again you are incorrect and miss the point totally

The earth never reached this point of population to begin with!

	28-11-2001 10:39									#22
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Again you are incorrect and miss the point totally The earth never reached this point of population to begin with!

Huh?!

How can I be incorrect about something that EXISTS RIGHT NOW?

Your problem is either you're too stupid to figure out the concept of extraordinarily high infant mortality rates, disease, famine, etc; or you're so blinded by your religious beliefs that you don't want to believe.

	28-11-2001 10:39									#23
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The Earth had not become populated enough that food would be a problem.


So again.....you Darwinist whores are going to have to explain yourselves alot better.....

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"But wait!!!!! There is seemingly no proof of us ever being overcrowded"

-Umm... that's because there aren't a trillion of us. Without technology the Earth couldn't feed 5 billion.

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"The Earth had not become populated enough that food would be a problem."

-May I invite you to take a quick trip over to Africa?

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quote: Originally posted by faded glory The Earth had not become populated enough that food would be a problem.

Er...you think they had farming technology and whatnot many thousands of years ago?

quote: So again.....you Darwinist whores are going to have to explain yourselves alot better.....

No, the problem here is you Religious whores need to dig yourself out of your hole and look around.
Us Darwinist whores are smart enough to figure it out without having our hands held the whole way like you seem to need.

Just stay with God's hand or whatever, keep believing what you want.
There's NO WAY you can prove Darwinism wrong with hilarious things like this.

	28-11-2001 10:42									#27
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Estimated that around 4,000 BC there were less than 20 million humans on earth.....

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quote: Originally posted by Victor Galis "The Earth had not become populated enough that food would be a problem." -May I invite you to take a quick trip over to Africa?

Modern day.....thats today


Your not catching my drift!!!!


humans never got to the point where they used up more than a tiny percentage of food! So there was clearly room to expand.....but they didnt????

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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Modern day.....thats today

Gold star! Great work!

quote: Your not catching my drift!!!!

We caught your drift, and we ran it over with a snowblower.

quote: humans never got to the point where they used up more than a tiny percentage of food! So there was clearly room to expand.....but they didnt????

LOL!
You're COMPLETELY right, we ALWAYS had ample food for everyone.

lol...

	28-11-2001 10:47									#30
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Do you read anything? Man showed up 20,000 years ago, not 3 million.

quote: Well look how much the population grew in the last 2,000 years.

Yes, and look at the amazing technological growth, especially in the realm of medicine.