29-11-2001 06:17									#1
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I'm surprised no one yet has suggested an enhanced missile unit as the UU for the Americans. The Americans are known for missile superiority.

	30-11-2001 00:13									#2
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I don't think Americans are known for their missiles. I think the Russians matched the Americans during the Cold War. The problem with missiles is that it is hard to say what is a superior missile. I think as long as the missile has range and can do sufficient damage they are all the same. In addition to that, the # of missiles determine the power more than how good each missile is. For example, who is considered to have better nuclear weapons China or Israel? From what I understand, China's weapons are inferior to Israel's but China has many more nukes so China is considered to be superior.

I think the current American UU is good enough. Americans are actually renowned for their air superiority, and definitely not their missiles.

KoalaBear33

	30-11-2001 05:38									#3
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i would agree with the above poster on this....

	30-11-2001 05:59									#4
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You could argue that smart bombs/cruise missiles are a unique weapon that America utilizes. Think about those images from the Gulf War when they were showing camera shots of bombs being guided down the chimneys of Sadam's houses and factories.

Maybe a smart bomb UU that allows that allows you to specify an improvement for destruction/unit for damage when used.

	30-11-2001 14:22									#5
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quote: Originally posted by KoalaBear33 I don't think Americans are known for their missiles. I think the Russians matched the Americans during the Cold War. The problem with missiles is that it is hard to say what is a superior missile. I think as long as the missile has range and can do sufficient damage they are all the same. In addition to that, the # of missiles determine the power more than how good each missile is. For example, who is considered to have better nuclear weapons China or Israel? From what I understand, China's weapons are inferior to Israel's but China has many more nukes so China is considered to be superior.

The Soviets not only had less missles than the Americans, but only 1 out of every 8 would even leave the launch pad. Of those, 1 of every 6 would actually hit the target. This, of course, was learned after billions were spend on the arms race. China is the same situation....they may have more than Isreal, but the Isreali targeting systems are American-made, the Chinese got theirs from the Soviet surplus sales of the early 90's.

quote: I think the current American UU is good enough. Americans are actually renowned for their air superiority, and definitely not their missiles. KoalaBear33

I'm sure Sadam Hussein would agree with you there.

	30-11-2001 21:23									#6
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I would have preferred to see an earlier UU for the Americans, and something more unique than merely a technolocal improvement.

Something like a Frontiersman or a Cavalry unit. The Frontiersman would be a Davy Crokett type; more defense (harder to hit from shooting from behind trees) and more mobile in difficult terrain. The Cavalry would be the type of post-Civil War, carbine-on-horse shooting unit. Slash attack and run...

Both were relatively unique to America.

	01-12-2001 06:22									#7
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I posted before remembering that missiles in Civ3 are bombard units ONLY. Since they cannot attack, they can never win a battle, and never trigger a golden age.

How about Green Berets instead--a stronger version of the Marine.

	01-12-2001 12:08									#8
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quote: Originally posted by HolyWarrior How about Green Berets instead--a stronger version of the Marine.

Neat, but I would prefer something more naval for the Americans. Perhaps an enhanced nuclear sub, the Los-Angeles class; or a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. If you wanted to give them a land unit, an upgraded Modern Tank, the Abrahm would be nice too.

	04-12-2001 17:14									#9
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i think a A12/SR 71 blackbird woud do better.
high speed (3500-4000 k/m per hour)
range 5000 km.
need`s Iron(there is no titanium in the game) and Oil.