30-11-2001 17:32									#31
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Belgian stereotypes (as far as I know, wich isn't that far)

Antewerpers: Racist, Vulgar, rightwing stupid bastards who dodge taxes and harass foreigners all day.

Limburgers: Farming folk who are slightly stupid and consider everything bigger then Hasselt a metropolis. Seen as half Dutchmen (while the Dutch see them as half Belgians)

Wallons: Lazy, complaining people who either don't want to speak Dutch though they can or avoid learning it with fanaticism.

Exterior:

Dutchmen: Arrogant, rude and cheap, though for some reason everyone seems hellbent on taking over their economic systems.

Other: Standards apply.

	30-11-2001 17:53									#32
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Fun fact: a couple of years ago, the British Council did a worldwide survey of foreign impressions of the British. The #1 perception? "They're all drunks." Way to party, guys!

American stereotypes of Canada: A couple of years ago, my oldest friend --a bright, successful guy, who did his undergrad at Georgetown and follows foreign affairs more than anyone else I know -- almost missed his flight from Chicago to Montreal because he went to the wrong terminal at O'Hare. Why the wrong terminal? He forgot Canada was a separate country! I think that says it all about US perceptions of our northern neighbors.

	30-11-2001 18:00									#33
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quote: Their drawling for a language is impossible to interpret (the idea of all Scandinavians understanding each other is a myth), I actually had to speak English all times I visited the Roskilde Festival.

Well, that's reassuring... I've tried to listen to Danmarks Radio at www.dr.dk a couple of times and always given up after a minute of two, thinking "how the **** can anyone comrehend this babble". What is strange, however, is that all the Finland's Swedes I've asked claim to understand it!

	30-11-2001 18:07									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly Fun fact: a couple of years ago, the British Council did a worldwide survey of foreign impressions of the British. The #1 perception? "They're all drunks." Way to party, guys!

What a completely false and misleading impression.

	30-11-2001 18:26									#35
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Here's my take on Chinese stereotypes:

SHANGHAI VERSUS BEIJING

Shanghainese on Shanghainese - cool, classy, hip, polished, urban, metropolitan, wealthy. Excellent businessfolk. Best looking men & women in the country. The pride of the nation, China's future. Showing the rest of the country how it's done.

Shanghainese on Beijingers: rude, uncouth bumpkins who spit a lot. Lazy, bureaucratic buck-passers, only like to talk about politics. Suck up the wealth from the rest of the country, give nothing back. Heavily polluted city, alternately scorching, frigid, and beset by sandstorms. Mortally afraid Shanghai will upstage their dirty, traffic-clogged town, as it is destined to do. Talk like they have a mouth full of marbles. Food is too greasy.

Beijingers on Shanghainese: grasping city-slicker yuppies trying too hard to be westerners. Woman are overbearing schemers. Men are skinny, overdressed schemers. Think of nothing but how to make money, or turn any situation to their advantage. Too much of nation's money lavished on their city. Speak a very ugly dialect. Food is too sweet.

Beijingers on Beijingers: most important city on Earth.

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GENERAL CHINESE ON CHINESE

Northerners: tall, robust, brash risk-takers, love to fight and drink. Loyal, but a little dumb. Prefer noodles.

Southerners: smaller, smarter, trickier. Prefer rice.

Westerners: impoverished peasants, but lives are rich in tradition. Prefer spicy food.

Guangdong (Canton) & Hong Kongers: shrewd business folks, make great movies and pop music, but are ugliest of Chinese. Eat anything including rats.

Taiwanese: they'll get theirs soon enough.

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CHINESE ON FOREIGNERS:

Japanese: nice culture and gadgets, but never, ever to be trusted. Incredibly homely.

Filipinos - uncultured, barely out of the jungle, live in huts, but are friendly. Great musicians. Hong Konger's choice for domestic help.

Americans: Crazy, hedonistic people who inhabit a fabulously wealthy country. Nice folks, generous, and friendly, but government is evil and trying to hold China back from it's rightful place. A nation of sex-maniacs, many of them are homosexual. Produce wonderful consumer products, films, and music. Most carry guns, many take drugs. Generally reasonable businessmen who can be trusted in deal-making.

Canadians: rather like Americans, but less crazy. Friendly, honest, but a little dumb. Live in an inhospitably cold place.

British: nice and cultured, but cannot be trusted. Speak strangely-accented English which is difficult to understand.

Australians: friendly, beer-guzzling partiers. Speak unintelligible version of English.

New Zealanders: same as Australians but have lots of sheep.

Germans: great technologists and engineers, like to drink a lot.

Dutch: a race of giants. A lot like Germans, but like to take drugs.

French: cool, sexy, great style.

Italians: Pretty country. Stole idea of pasta from Chinese.

Scandinavians: ("Who?")

	30-11-2001 18:55									#36
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Brits on Brits:

London - Huge, unfriendly, dirty, absurdly expensive place that no-one in their right minds would want to live in, though it's cool to visit now and then.
The North - full of failing industry and call centres, partially redeemed by cheap beer. People in Newcastle never wear shirts, even in December. Liverpudlians steal things and get pregnant at 14.
The West - laid back, drink cider and smoke dope. More than its share of new-age weirdos and Guardian readers.
The South East - covered entirely with identical semi-detatched houses, whose inhabitants engage in wife-swapping and cross-dressing behind their seemingly drab and futile existence, at least during the twenty five minutes each week they're not commuting to London.
Northern Ireland - full of bigoted psychopaths
Wales - rugby, singing, sheep. Of so little consequence we haven't bothered to update our stereotypes of them for a century.
Scotland - parsimonious alcholics.

Britain as a whole - we're crap at everything, especially the things we invented, like football, industry and railways.

Brits on foreigners:

Germany - arrogant, humourless. We beat them in the war.
France - obnoxious, always on strike. Insist on speaking French.
Spain - full of great beaches and bars. The Spanish people consist entirely of waiters called Manuel.
America - crazy Jesus freaks who shoot each other all the time.
Canada - Sensible Americans.
Australia - informal, drunk, friendly.
Swizterland, Scandinavia - nice but dull countries that mind their own business
Netherlands - place where absolutely everything is legal
Russia - dangerous gangsters

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	30-11-2001 19:04									#37
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quote: Originally posted by uncle_funk Danes: Constantly drunk, painfully liberal North-Germans.

Because of our low alcohol prices, and the high prices at our neighbor Sweden, loads of swedes come here to drink. You can guess the stereotype we have for them .

But I think the stereotype of drunk danes is shared by many. When I was at an international event in Canada we were picking up a box of beers for our teachers (ahem), and a guy who saw us promptly said "oh, you are the danes" .

quote: Their drawling for a language is impossible to interpret (the idea of all Scandinavians understanding each other is a myth), I actually had to speak English all times I visited the Roskilde Festival.

I have been know to ask other scandinavians to speak english . I am getting better at interpreting what goes for your language, however .

	30-11-2001 19:09									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Rand Al'Tor Dutchmen: Arrogant, rude and cheap, though for some reason everyone seems hellbent on taking over their economic systems.

Heee. I'm spending big money in Belgium this weekend!! Although I'm lending an appartment in Knokke from friends so I don'y have to pay

	30-11-2001 19:09									#39
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quote: The West - laid back, drink cider and smoke dope. More than its share of new-age weirdos and Guardian readers

You forgot:

They all drive around in tractors, saying words like fertilizer in a funny accent. However some have upgraded to combine harvesters and instead sing songs about Worzel Gummich.

	30-11-2001 19:11									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Aivo˝so Well, that's reassuring... I've tried to listen to Danmarks Radio at www.dr.dk a couple of times and always given up after a minute of two, thinking "how the **** can anyone comrehend this babble". What is strange, however, is that all the Finland's Swedes I've asked claim to understand it!

It seems to be mutual - I have tried talking to finns, and found their swedish very understandable.

	30-11-2001 21:57									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Seneca Brits on Brits: The South East - covered entirely with identical semi-detatched houses, whose inhabitants engage in wife-swapping and cross-dressing behind their seemingly drab and futile existence, at least during the twenty five minutes each week they're not commuting to London.

Sounds about right

Except none of that accurately covers Brighton.

	01-12-2001 00:58									#42
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Northen Europeans: passive as cows and washed out like a used cloth (in color)

Americans: stupid as can be, ignorant and incredibly misled

more specifically:

english: gays

turks: brutes, savages, animals

albanians: cutthroats, barbarians, primitives

bulgarians: primitives

germans: naive, easily mislead by rhetorics and crypto nazis

italians: same as us

serbs: brothers

russians: the orthodox connection

french: socialist fighters

scandinavians: lucky bastards

slavs of Fyrom: thieves of history, gypsies


these are the most prominent INMHO.

	01-12-2001 01:11									#43
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Purple Robe Wearing Spartan,

Now break it down by Greeks

(Athenians, Macedonians, etc)

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that's a little bit tough because they are very regionalized.

For example in the small aegean island of Karpathos (where the goats may very well outnumber the number of inhabitants) the people of the "upper little crystal stream" village would badmouth the people of the "down little crystal stream" village and so on.
And this happens in many places.

But as a general guide anyone who is not born and bred in Athens or another big city is a hick (according to Athenians).

Athenians are rude, impolite, non helping SOBs to anyone coming from a small town

People from the North (Macedonians and others) have an opposition with people from the South and specifically Athenians because we eat more state funds. (and they are right).


People of the Ionian islands are considered a little bit "romantic" if you catch my drift (=feminine) - a claim that I reject with disgust since my grandfather was born there (all others in Athens).

Peloponesians (Sparta is a small village now) are stereotypically considered tough and somewhat dangerous as well as Cretans.

Greeks from the former Pontus region of Byzantium (north east Turkey today) are considered very stupid and there are thousand of jokes about them (they now live in mainland Greece). That's because they are actually much smarter and better traders than the rest of the greeks.

All the other stereotypes are regionalized and you have to actually live in another place to know with whom they are exchanging imaginative adjectives

	01-12-2001 03:48									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Seneca The West - laid back, drink cider and smoke dope. More than its share of new-age weirdos and Guardian readers.

It's a disturbing experience to realise that you fit a stereotype perfectly.
Seneca forgot the Cornish- Swarthy, and feral semi-humans who quietly in-breed across the moors. Cornwall is actually part of England, but the Cornish aren't actually aware of this.

One for mindseye- an early 20th century British stereotype of the Chinese.
"There are two types of Chinaman. Those who give bribes, and those who accept them."

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Should I even mention the Essex stereotype.....

Kentish maids are far better IMHO.

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Hi, long time listener, occasional poster...cant resist

Detroit- perceived by the rest of US (and our burbs) as apocalyptic, post-industrial, DMZ that is inhabitated by nothing more than crackheads, hookers, and burned out buildings left over from the 60's riots. Exemplified as the construct for "White flight" across all major Us metropolises. Has seriously been considered as a living museum for the faded Industrial Era. Nothing but cars, cars, cars,

Actually- a lot of it unfortunately true. However, one of the best music scenes and infinite cultural possibilities keep me here despite numerous break-ins and assorted petty crime BS. By the way, we just don't make cars, we make Wonder Bread and Faygo Pop as well...

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American intra-stereotypes:

Geographical (keep in mind that I am white, male, blond-hair, blue-eyes, middle class protestant from New Jersey):

Southerners: Slow-witted biggots and bible-thumpers

Westerners: They all sit on their Ranch porches, stroking their guns

Californians: Fake

Floridians: either old guys or FOB's

West Virginia: Deliverance...(inbred hicks)

New Yorkers: Rude (but not anymore)

stereotypes of foreigners:

Mexicans: short

Canadanians: loggers

French-Canadians: the French X2

French: arrogant, dirty bastards

English: depends on accent. Some accents make British people sound uppity, others sound really dirty (wrong-side of the tracks type of an accent)

Polish: dumb (don't ask me where this came from)

Chinese: good at math...did anyone see that Conan O'Brien skit "I'm bad at math?"

Japanese: really wierd

Aussies: British hicks

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Northen Europeans: passive as cows and washed out like a used cloth (in color) Americans: stupid as can be, ignorant and incredibly misled more specifically: english: gays turks: brutes, savages, animals albanians: cutthroats, barbarians, primitives bulgarians: primitives germans: naive, easily mislead by rhetorics and crypto nazis italians: same as us serbs: brothers russians: the orthodox connection french: socialist fighters scandinavians: lucky bastards slavs of Fyrom: thieves of history, gypsies these are the most prominent INMHO.

English : Gays? WTF are you guys on?

	01-12-2001 06:06									#50
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quote: English : Gays? WTF are you guys on?

Its fitting as we have the stereotype of all Greeks being gay.

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My stereotypes. (from the view of a British Columbian):

Ontario: Center of the world. Center of the center? Toronto. Not very humorous place. The 'Leafs.

Quebec: The French. They like to 'fool' around (double pun, refers to love for sex and comedy festival) Poutine, traffic, Celine Dion. Doesn't really like Ontario.

Newfoundland: Lazy. Funny talkers. Like fish. No jobs. Seem to like sex, but probably are doing it all wrong.

The rest of the East: Not a lot to say. Hmmm. Anne of Green Gables. Potatoes. Goin' nowhere fast.

Manitoba: Floods. Bugs. No more Jets. They lost to Calgary in football. Louis Reil.

Saskatchewan: Probably spelled it wrong. Lots of crime, apparently. Boring shape (rectangle). Wheat.

Alberta: Cow-people. The Stampede! Lots of dem' fun-da-mentalists. The Oilers and Flames. They beat Manitoba at football.

British Columbia: Home. Hippies (who seem to vote for the Canadian Alliance). 'B' stands for 'Beer' and 'C' stands for 'Coffee'. Forests and mountains. Economically and politically disfunctional. Doesn't really like Ontario.

The North: who knows. I've never been there. I assume it's cold this time of year, and pretty much any time of year.

The U.S.: Funny (laughing at, not with) people. Most nice, some rude, but most dazzled about other cultures, yet want to familiarity of home when travelling abroad. That's why we have MrDicks around the world.

	01-12-2001 08:34									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch quote: English : Gays? WTF are you guys on? Its fitting as we have the stereotype of all Greeks being gay.

Aren't they?