30-11-2001 01:07									#1
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So, here's a thread bound to piss everybody off

And it's important to remember that listing a stereotype here doesn't mean that Apolytoner in question holds it or supports it in any way. It's more like what some random guy at the bar might say after having taken bit too much.

So, Finnish stereotypes, first intra-Finnish (there's even a handy map for regions!):

Savonians: Crookeder than, er, a crooked stick. You just can't have a straight answer from Savonian. Savonians often represent, to a Helsinkian, the worst rest of the Finland can offer. Pretty weird, considering that goodish part of Helsinkians are Savonians who've moved to the Big City. (Don't laugh. It's a big city for Finns.)

Tavastians: Slow, silent, blonde, big burly farming folks. The main characteristics is slow. City of Tampere is, for some reason, called 'Manchester of Finland.'

Bothnians (okay, Ostrobothnians for you, Aivo): Violent and unpredictable folks, who use their traditional knifes for everything, including killing people. (Gangs of 'häjyt', which for some godforsaken reason has been translated as 'badmen' in English, were in habit of freaking stuff up in Bothnia in 1800s.) Conservative, and name of their conservatism is "foreigners out, steel to Eastern border, EU is the apocalyptic beast, gimme my subsidies", and fundamentalistically religious. Most Finns who moved to America were Bothnians, incidentally.

Laplanders: Santa Claus lives there, along with hardy 80-year-old men who think anyone who can't walk 80 miles in January swamp with wolves chasing him is a Southern wuss and who *love* to castrate reindeer in old-fashioned way. (hint: name of this old-fashioned way is 'reindeer-biting'. You can guess the rest.)

South Finlanders: No specific stereotypes exist, except for vague "They're all just buncha socialist city slickers there'. Well, except for city of Turku, which is universally thought to be the arsehole of Finland.

Helsinkians: Endlessly arrogant little city weenies who are ready for murder when they can't find lacto-ovo-vegetarian Thai restaurant in Podunkville, Savo, and who think they know what to do with the land farmers own better than farmers themselves.

Karelians: Jolly people who love to evilly mock other Finns with their mean-spirited, insulting humor and then claim they were just kidding. Guess what Stefu is!

Then, for foreigners:

Swedes: Ahh, our beloved neighbours! Swedes in Sweden are thought of as hopelessly idiotic and homosexual, and Swedes in Finland as hopelessly idiotic and homosexual elitists who hate regular Finns and have really far too much money and power for their own good.

Russians: Another nation Finns have traditional love for! Believed to be untrustable thugs and thieves who are just waiting for another chance to have a go at Finland. While anti-semitism didn't really take off in Finland in 30s, right-wing extremists have *always* found Russians to be a target they can aim at.

Norwegians: Bit like a cross between ourselves and Swedes. Traditional type of Finnish joke is "Finnish, Swedish and Norwegian guy do something blahblah" where Finn always does well, Norwegian does second-best, and Swede does the worst.

Germans: Fat, gluttonous people who believe rest of Europe is for their tourist parties. In certain parts of Lapland, there still are memories (like landmines) from one particularily vigorous tourist party in 1944-1945, which took a whole Lapland War to get rid of.

Americans: Fat, stupid, arrogant, warlike. Standard European stuff.

Rest of the world: SSA (Standard Stereotypes Apply.)

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	30-11-2001 01:15									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu Germans: Fat, gluttonous people who believe rest of Europe is for their tourist parties.

Wait, it´s not?

	30-11-2001 01:19									#3
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Finns = Morose drunks who work in the logging industry and are rather good at running stupidly long distances.

	30-11-2001 01:22									#4
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Oh yes- to complete the Scandinavian stereotypes...

Norwegians/Swedes = Vaguely interchangeable blonde people who live in saunas and make the most tedious films on earth. Their hobbies are porn and suicide.

	30-11-2001 01:23									#5
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Big Hats, Big Trucks, Big BBQ's.


Sadly, all those stereotypes about Texas are right....

	30-11-2001 01:25									#6
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I'm not aware of any stereotypes outside of Canadian / American, and I doubt I need to tell you those ones.

	30-11-2001 01:31									#7
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quote: Norwegians/Swedes = Vaguely interchangeable blonde people who live in saunas

You realize, of course, that I have to kill you.

	30-11-2001 01:33									#8
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American stereotype of neighbors:

Canada- beer and hockey. Seen those guys from Strange Brew?
Mexico - Beautiful country. Not so beautiful people.

*Both not serious stereotypes (i think!)

	30-11-2001 01:34									#9
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Nations dont hold stereotypes you moron.


A few idiots living in the nations do.

	30-11-2001 01:38									#10
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In Finland, fg, we tend to apply the word 'comma fucker' to people like you. Details, details, details.

Besides, I'm not sure how well "What are the stereotypes held by few idiots living in your nation of other peoples" is going to fit the subject line.

	30-11-2001 02:31									#11
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quote: Well, except for city of Turku, which is universally thought to be the arsehole of Finland.

quote: Norwegians/Swedes = Vaguely interchangeable blonde people who live in saunas and make the most tedious films on earth. Their hobbies are porn and suicide.

Finnish hobbies also *winks to Stefu*
Suicide rates seem to be high, though. Must be the fact that there's not so much light here then in south. For example when I go to school: dark. When I go home: dark.

quote: Tavastians: Slow, silent, blonde, big burly farming folks. The main characteristics is slow. City of Tampere is, for some reason, called 'Manchester of Finland.'

The reasons are clear. The most successful (nowadays) team in the favorite British sport, soccer, is from Manchester. So is Tappara and Ilves from Tampere (Ice hockey).
Not to mention Tampere is in central Finland, and has developed around industry.

	30-11-2001 03:11									#12
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Brits: Effete fops

Yanks: Arrogant ******, too much power for their own good. Sorta dumb, too

Aussies: Count the silverware before they leave, but good-natured

Kiwis: Who cares? They're just like Australians anyways

French (France): Existentialist artistic snobs


French (Canada): Like real Frenchies, but with a strong sense of hick about them. They grew up in a family of 48 children and spend their time either in a strip bar (Danseuses Nues) or in Church

English (Canada): Cold, distant, asexual. What are they, robots? They love beer. Inferiority complex that comes from trying to prove they're more English than the English

Newfoundlanders: Goddamn, they're stupid. What's with that accent? Nobody on the island actually has a job; they just sit around all day staring at the walls of their tar-paper shack

Albertans: Goddamn cowboys

	30-11-2001 03:34									#13
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Finns: Pimpled (actually the Swedish plural of Finns is "Finnar", which means pimples ), kinda weird, melancholic Scandinavian-wannabees who drink till they pass out in their sauna.

Sadly, I'm 50% Finnish. Atleast, my paternal side is from the Swedish-speaking part of Finland. Lappträsk to be exactly. From the name it does not exactly appear to be a metropolitan. Any of you Fincoms familiar with it?

Norwegians: Hilarious Santa Claus-resembling people who talk funny (their language came to being by trying to talk Swedish but not really managing to), are blond, brisk and always in a good mood. Skiing is taught in kindergarden, and the rate of skiers is higher than the literacy one.

Danes: Constantly drunk, painfully liberal North-Germans. There is atleast one sex-shop in each block in Danmark and there isn't any part of the pig which is no good for eating. Their drawling for a language is impossible to interpret (the idea of all Scandinavians understanding each other is a myth), I actually had to speak English all times I visited the Roskilde Festival.

I think we generally share the common stereotypes of the rest of the world with the rest of the world.

	30-11-2001 03:54									#14
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Spanish - Well? Ummm, I really don't know of any. The argentines do call Spaniards something.... I forget.

	30-11-2001 04:01									#15
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stereotype:

USA = bad azzes

truth:

USA = bad azzes

	30-11-2001 04:46									#16
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Wait, it´s not?

No, silly. Europe is the funny place accross the water. We (Brits) go there to get drunk, beat up locals and watch the power cutes

	30-11-2001 05:13									#17
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Californians: Superiority, rich, surfers, spoiled by sun, domination of freezing pale Eastern

	30-11-2001 05:24									#18
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Europe is the funny place accross the water. We (Brits) go there to get drunk, beat up locals and watch the power cutes

Hang on, we do that at home aswell.

	30-11-2001 05:33									#19
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This reminds me of a quote I remember seeing once.

"Europeans view Americans as rude, arrogant, bloodthirsty barbarians, while Americans view Europeans as arrogant, elitist, idealists. The ironic part, however, is that both parties are right."

	30-11-2001 05:45									#20
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Culturally:

Americans making less than $50k a year view the whole rest of the world as dying to be American.

Americans making more than $50k a year are dying to be anything other than American.


Although it's embarrassing as hell to be an American ("our transcendant cultural gifts to the world: SUV's, talk radio, and Barney") , I gotta admit, the only thing worse than being a citizen of the world's most annoying and self-important superpower is being a citizen of any other country, likely to be bossed around by the world's most annoying and self-important superpower.

U... S... duh... A.

	30-11-2001 05:48									#21
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I've been to Finland - very interesting country. Strong Russian influence. I didn't find the Fins very friendly but I really liked the short time I had there. It was very novel for me because you can't really get much further away from Australia than Finland.

Do you live in Helsinki Stefu? I took the ferry from Stockholm to Helsinki and back again.

	30-11-2001 06:38									#22
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Australians - Dangerous people (convicts descendents) + dangerous animals = dangerous country.

	30-11-2001 08:33									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker stereotype: USA = bad azzes truth: USA = bad azzes

Americans
“Lets bomb them back to the Stone Age”

Britts
“The Americans are bombing someone, we suppose we should bomb them too”

French
“Why are you bombing our customers”

Germans
“We will watch you bomb them, but do you really want us to help”

Israelis
“Bomb the Arabs” or “Let us help, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaazzzzzzeeeeeeee”

Russians
“Why are you bombing our customers” or “Good the Americans are saving us the trouble”

Australians
“We will send troops, in about five months”

Canadians
“Need any Peacekeepers”

Greeks
“Bomb the Turks”

Turks
“Bomb the Greeks”

Chinese
“Get you little red books, only $29.96”

	30-11-2001 08:36									#24
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quote: Originally posted by uncle_funk Australians - Dangerous people (convicts descendents) + dangerous animals = dangerous country.

Unfortunately that perception doesn't stop hoardes of Swedish backpackers coming out there every summer.

	30-11-2001 09:08									#25
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When a person speaks three languages, he is trilingual

When a person speaks two languages, he is bilingual

When a person speaks only one language, he is American

	30-11-2001 12:21									#26
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asian stereotypes, from korea.

intra-korea.

the southwest, cholla provinces (south/north): idiots, country bumpkins. the armpit, the alabama, the arsehole of korea.

the southeast (near pusan): factory people, sea people.

the south south island (cheju): hawaii, but all korean.

central (ch'ungbuk pronvinces, south/north): snooty, boring.

north central (near seoul): cosmopolitan. western. vibrant, noisy. loud. very loud.

north: people live up there?

international:

japan: cultural theives, rapists, pillagers.

china: culturally somewhat unrefined, somewhat stupid.

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japanese thoughts on korea: culturally somewhat unrefined, inferior.

japanese thoughts on china: backwater, stupid.

chinese thoughts on korea: culturally somewhat unrefined.

chinese thoughts on japan: culturally unrefined, theives, rapists, pillagers, perverts.

	30-11-2001 12:30									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Israelis “Bomb the Arabs” or “Let us help, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaazzzzzzeeeeeeee”

And this, unlike most of the stereotypes here, is true.

	30-11-2001 12:44									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu Well, except for city of Turku, which is universally thought to be the arsehole of Finland.

quote: Originally posted by kassiopeia The reasons are clear. The most successful (nowadays) team in the favorite British sport, soccer, is from Manchester. So is Tappara and Ilves from Tampere (Ice hockey).

quote: Originally posted by uncle_funk Sadly, I'm 50% Finnish. Atleast, my paternal side is from the Swedish-speaking part of Finland. Lappträsk to be exactly. From the name it does not exactly appear to be a metropolitan. Any of you Fincoms familiar with it?

Good for you. I've heard of Lappträsk, but I don't know where it is. Sounds like a fun place, though.

	30-11-2001 16:02									#29
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hahaha well done Sprayber.

Highly accurate too.

	30-11-2001 16:53									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker stereotype: USA = bad azzes truth: USA = bad azzes

stereotype
USA = bad azzes
truth
USA = the whole body has turned bad (meaning seriously fat)