30-11-2001 07:23									#1
	Who's the oldest vet still here? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I know Fitz and Googlie have been here recently, but I haven't seen too many others from a while back. HP left IIRC four or five months ago, so scratch that.

So Vel, Fitz, Googlie...anyone else? or is that all for the AC faithful from way back?

	30-11-2001 08:55									#2
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{waves cane}

Seems surprising to me to hear that Fitz is a vet. What was his former name?

There are still a few .owo types around. Most have moved on to other games.

	30-11-2001 09:01									#3
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Well, acording to registration date i have been here longer than wiglaf, but I do not feel like a veteran.

	30-11-2001 09:02									#4
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BTW, when did SMAC come out?

	30-11-2001 09:28									#5
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I remember when I was a newbie too terrified to post lest I say something that one of the old salts would regard as stupid! So....I lurked here for prolly two months before it dawned on me that this wasn't "that kind of place"....that new posters were welcomed as just part of the gang.....so eventually, I opened my mouth, and then nobody 'round here could shut me back up....

-=Vel=-
(still here!)

	30-11-2001 10:23									#6
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I joined two years ago just after I purchased SMAC. The guys here were really into discovering the intricacies of the game's various formula's and listing all the bugs for Firaxis to fix. I think Firaxis actually paid attention to us then.

Ned

	30-11-2001 20:44									#7
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Many of the vets are still active in the Multiplayer forum, but only occasionally visit here.

A quick perusal of the profiles reveals (and I apologize in advance if I have inadvertently omitted someone):

March 1999: Fistandantilus
April: Googlie, Vel and cousLee
May: Flo and JAMiAM
June: RedFred and Hydro
July: M@ni@c
August: Dilithium Dad
October: Ned and Buster
November: Tau Ceti
December: Misotu

Some of these are more active in the parallel forums (Fist, cous, Flo and JAM over at ACOL and Buster at CGN)

::grows misty-eyed:: then there were the grizzlied OWO vets - Bossman, CEO Bernard, Blue, Imram, et al ...........

G.

	30-11-2001 20:59									#8
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Well, if longevity equates to "vet" status, I'll join the ranks. My housemate got me SMAC the week it was released and I moved over from the old Civ2 forums to look for de-bugging help.


Who, then would qualify as the "Commando"?

	30-11-2001 21:20									#9
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the people who it says registered in 1969...

	30-11-2001 22:57									#10
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Who are you calling a vet? You wanna step outside?

I'm not really a vet, just someone who loves the procedural/analytical side of the game and makes the occasional big noise in the forums. I never even saw ACOL until after it had turned into a general forum.

Unfortunately for my SMAXing days, I just bought Civ3. But since I'm the only one of a group of 5 friends who are SMAXers, and it doesn't have MP yet, I'm sure I'll be playing some for quite a while.

	30-11-2001 23:15									#11
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Being a relative newcomer to the forums, it's always interesting to see the progress of things before your time. Thing is, the .owo forums were the original SMAC forums - when they died, people flocked away, some to ACOL, and some here to Apolyton.

Ah well. Another couple of years, and I'll no doubt be one of the SMAC vets at the Civ3 forums...

	01-12-2001 06:18									#12
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Woah, lots of you are still here.

It's just that, it seems like a lot are leaving as flocks of new civ3 fans come in. Just curious to see if the 'established' community was still checking in every once in a while.

Civ3 general is a MESS, topics are bumped down to the second page in about ten minutes! Before release, it took five or six hours. In many ways, it looks like traffic has picked up here as well, not that that's a bad thing at all. Anyhoo, just making sure.

	01-12-2001 07:09									#13
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A lot of people won't be flocking to CIV3 because of the huge problems, and the huge processing power and amount of ram required to run it smoothly.

	02-12-2001 04:34									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Basilisk A lot of people won't be flocking to CIV3 because of the huge problems, and the huge processing power and amount of ram required to run it smoothly.

Not to mention, that with respect to MP, IMO Civ3 is hopelessly broken.

	02-12-2001 04:42									#15
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Apolygies accepted, Googlie, and you forgot Aredhran too, part of the group (with cousLee, Goob, Nell, Raspy...) who came here almost together when MarkG opened the AC Multiplaying Forum on OUR request...

Now, I don't think I will move on to other games, when so much time gets invested in a game that has infinite MP replayability, I am not exaclty keen to start learning another one, if it's not extremely appealing.

For sure, CivIII has nothing to do with SMAC, and I begin to wonder if "culture" and "resources" alone are enough to make it a significant improvement over CivII. Frankly, I begin to think that it's just a minor variant to it after all, I'd call it rather Civ 2.64...
For me, so far, apart the curiosity for the novelty, it hasn't more appeal than civII in gameplay.

Now, IF only we could finally see S!SG development start moving again... and then there's MoO3 underway, and infogrames promised that if CivIII was succesful they would have considered MoM2! (please hire someone else than firaxis tho...)

MoSe

PS: did Bossman ever *play* the game actually? I think he just used to "play the forums", rather...

	02-12-2001 07:36									#16
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I guess I'm a veteran lurker... does that count?

	02-12-2001 21:50									#17
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Wow! Me placed with the likes of the illustrious Vel and Googlie, just to name a very few! It is hard to believe that the game has been around for 2.5 years, and it is even harder to believe that so many others and I are still actively interested in the game. Normally a game is a semi- or long-forgotten antique by now. I have to say that multiplayer has reinvigorated my activity in SMAX, and that the Fiction Forum is a long-standing favorite of mine.

Hydro

	03-12-2001 01:48									#18
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Oh my! I'm considered a "vet". I'm honoured. Only a shame I know almost none of the other vets personally. Says something about the frequency I come here I guess.

	03-12-2001 08:17									#19
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Not quite sure when I registered... nice to see all the oldbies still here.

	03-12-2001 17:40									#20
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It's funny...

The first time I visited Apolyton was when SMAC was released (I just can't remember when it was), but I never registered on apolyton (due to various reasons). I visited here often, but registered only on aug 2001, which makes me a newbie. But I don't feel like it.

So I'm not a vet, even though I am old - but surely not the oldest.

	05-12-2001 15:22									#21
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So... what do you call a new guy to posting (started about a week ago when I found all this whilst bored mindless at work), but a regular Apolyton visitor (since '97), and someone who started on Civ in '91, and since has got and played through what must be THOUSANDS of hours of Civ, Civ2 +both expansion packs, SMAC, CTP, SMAC-X and now Civ3? Only one I haven't got is CTP2, due to horrendous CTP experience.

So, does my "silent" experience prove veteranship?

	05-12-2001 15:30									#22
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I remember coming here by following links when I got Smac but like aaglo didn't register. It wasn't till I got around to getting Smax that I finally decided to register. I must say that the OT kind of sucked me up too.