01-12-2001 11:36									#1
	In the year 1808 time did stop... Enter the AD-FREE zone

Please wait... read the prompt in the corner of the status box after I'd hit enter. And so I waited. And waited. And waited. Got up. Went to the bathroom. Came back. Waited. Waited. Waited. Read a few pages of a book. And waited some more. Finally, I came to a startling conclusion: the system was not churning through huge amounts of unoptimized code! Nay, the game was locked up! Sure enough, Cntrl-Alt-Del revealed "CivIII-Not responding"

No problem. Happens every now and again to the best of programs. I reload. Get to the same point and begin waiting. Waiting. Waiting. Waiting. Waiting. Waiting. Cnrtl-Alt-Del. Uh-huh. "CivIII-Not responding."

Hmmmm....curiouser and curiouser. Reboot system. Reload same saved game. Complete turn. Hit enter. Go through enemy turns as before. Whenever it's obvious my turn is about to begin hit Cntrl-Alt-Del. First person to guess what I see in the "close program" screen gets a stuffed Alexander the Great doll with lifelike constipated grimace...

This was one of the best games of CivIII I'd played so far and the first that I was probably going to see through to completion. Although I wasn't winning I did feel like I was in the running, and I had invested at least 24 hours play time up to that point (Huge map, 10 civs). Question is, has anybody experienced anything similar? Yes or no, what is the probable cause? I'm guessing the saved game became corrupted somehow, but that's just pure speculation on my part. Aybody else have theories?

My particulars:

PIII 866
256MB SDRAM
20GB HD, 7GB free
32 MB NVIDIA Riva TNT2 Model64 Pro
SBLive Value
Windows ME

	01-12-2001 11:50									#2
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

All I know is that your signature quote is very hilarious. Good work! LOL! However, I sadly must report that...knock on wood...I have never had the game lock up. Now, I'm sure you know that as time advances, the game takes much longer to generate each AI turn.

	01-12-2001 12:15									#3
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Post the game and we'll test it...

Venger

	01-12-2001 12:55									#4
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Alas, the file in question is 627kb in size--127kb too big for the attachment limit...

	01-12-2001 13:03									#5
	Got spare money?

I agree the quote is hysterical.

BTW, did you try closing all of your background programs. You never know but sometimes it works.

	01-12-2001 13:19									#6
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quote: Alas, the file in question is 627kb in size--127kb too big for the attachment limit...

What about zipping it?

	01-12-2001 17:34									#7
	Remove this text

Or restart playing from an earlier save. In my experience Civ III sometimes corrupts the savegames leading up to a crash.....

	02-12-2001 03:24									#8
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I've had the game lock up several times. One constant situation was when I attacked a city with a bomber which was interecepted (a pity MY pilots can't manage that ). It happened EVERY time I restarted that saved game, it got intercepted, and the game stopped working. I stopped using bombers for several turns because of that.

	02-12-2001 08:22									#9
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Yes, it'll be a corrupt game ... and something you are doing is triggering it off.

It could be a building getting completed, a unit attacking a aprticular other unit or .. in my case ... trading surplus coal. Everytime I did it, the game locked up.

I went back a few save games, didn't trade coal, found the corrupt save game file etc ... I managed to get past it in the end.

You should go back a few turns.

	02-12-2001 09:31									#10
	Interesting... Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Lowered acceleration of my graphics card one tick. Shut down everything except systray and Explorer and launched CivIII. Loaded a saved game from 1798 (five turns back from my 1808 game).

Froze up in 1800 this time...