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MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000
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that "Article" about the BBC's attitude is 
Giancarlo ,you don't cease to amaze me . you go like :
you :- I hate gays , gays don't deserve to live .
a normal person : Giancarlo , that's not nice , you've only talked about how "it's OK to be gay" , and now you're all homophobic again...
 
you : oh , I am so sorry ...
I feel like bashing you , but I also feel sorry for you being ... well , if I'll continue I'll be bashing you...
I think you should live this forum. NOTICE : I am , of course , not commanding you to do this, but I think it would be better for all of us , you especially.
and if you are gay ( no matter what you say ) , you should simply be ashamed of yourself. You should simply stop doing this. I am not going to tell anything else , if you have moral values , you know that you are wrong . If you don't , well ... OK then , do whatever you want.
Date smart beautiful women that will love you , if you want to do it.
Date intelligent handsome men that will love you , if you want to do it .
I am no character judge , meerly a regular human being , but I can see that you cannot find inner peace on a very basic level.
I wish you the best of luck .
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Giancarlo
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Apr 2000
time: 02:16
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Originally posted by red_jon
Well, what a surprise - Giancarlo is playing the poor, outspoken, harrassed drama queen again.  |
Rightfully.
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I'm not going to get into another of his pathetic arguments - most people know the truth about his sexuality (and his harrassment of prominent posters). |
Oh really? How?
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I didn't say conservatives deserve no part in anything - you, Giancarlo are not a conservative. |
I am a conservative, you stalinist.
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Conservatives feel they have a reason or denying homosexuals rights. You simply hate gay people because of your own insecurities, |
No, I do not, I am secure about being straight because I like women. Simple.
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See a shrink, get help, whatever - just don't shove you pathetic psychological problems in other peoples faces. |
You should too... because you have enormous complusions to put your failures on other people.
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Oh, and I'm sure most gay people find you disgusting (I sure do). Come to think of it, most straight people probably feel the same way. |
Gay people are disgusting in what they do, no wonder why they only live up to 39 on the average. I stand firm in my beliefs.
Dalgetti, I frankly don't care, if you wish to continue with this false propaganda than go ahead. You don't know me. Nobody knows who I am.
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The correct analogy was never Vietnam (if people did maintain that then they were wrong). If was either of two things:
(1) It will be another Phillipines. Project force a great distance, clean out the occupiers, then doublecross the population and foist a useless government on them, eventually clear out and allow a murderous autocracy to lock down the country for 25 years as long as they serve our interests.
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(2) It will be another Afghanistan (with us reprising the Brit and Russian role). Get nowhere, waste blood and treasure, pull out ignominiously.
Both were fair calls before the bombings started. (2) didn't happen, thankfully. Now we have to be intelligent enough not to let (1) happen.
BTW, it's a well accepted psychological pricniple that those who are most aggressively homophobic are suppressing their own desires.
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:16
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good god, for all of you people who keep b|tching about how it's the stalinists/communists/leftists/convervatives/fascists/rightists/juntas, will you not ever get it through your thick skulls that those are the exceptions to the political spectrum? those are the goddamned extremists.
that extremism, that factionalism is what we have to fear.
for those "liberals", in the "free" market sense: adam smith states that fact in the wealth of nations. i don't have my copy with me, it's back in the dorm room, and i'm on winter break, but it's there. i believe in volume 1, book seven or eight. something like that.
your vaunted leader himself says that "factionalism" is the primary cause for the destruction of justice, and thus one of the biggest contributors to the brutal pogroms and off-hand killings that you so eagerly assign to the leftists, communists, socialists, or, i suppose, as you call them in your less p.c. times, pinkos.
and as for you liberals, in the more current sense: your friend marx also believes in the idea of unity, behind the idea that it is only through a unification of the classes that a classless society would arise. it is his opinion, what he wrote in his numerous texts, that it is only when true democratic processes are in existence, i.e., a society where justice prevails and there is equality for everyone, that these horrifying events would not take place. thus, he warns against military rule; he warns against control of people through corporations to the extent where all life is dictated by said corporations... and by and large, this is not happening on a scale grand enough to ruin the lives of most people. (i grant that this point may be more open to arguing, but if so, how come a world revolution hasn't taken part yet? if so, how come the countries in which marx predicted revolutions to occur never really suffered them?)
look, people, quit your finger pointing and realize this: it is always the extremists, the fanatics who kill people. it does not matter what side of the political spectrum they are on, if they believe a certain political belief to the extent that it blocks everything else out of their mind, that they are zealots and completely bent on a cause, they will commit atrocities.
this is why you have terrorists. those people you refer to, stalin, hitler, pol pot... how are they different from osama? aside from the obvious difference of what they believe in? absolutely nothing. they are EXTREMISTS.
that is the danger of the society we live in, that is what we have to fear.
extremism == bad.
not differing political views.
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:16
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now, onto a reason why we "won" the "war" in "afghanistan": it's because of our technology.
we had spy satellites in the air, photographing their every move. we had spy planes, manned and unmanned in the air, recording everything and relaying it back to the naval carriers. ever heard of the predator unmanned spy plane? it's equipped with video cameras, gps, and a laser targeting device. precision bombing allowed fa18 hornets to home in on targets as many as three times a night, making sure that the first strike killed the target, the second killed the rescuers, and the third killed the cockroaches feasting on their bodies.
we had black ops people in there and marines. the black ops helped with the air strikes, and the targeting.
the marines could leapfrog over 400 miles in one night.
this is why it didn't end up as another vietnam. the taliban were shocked that our forces could move so fast, so efficiently, so mysteriously without being seen.
if we'd done this in the 80s, or 70s, this WOULD have been another vietnam; technology, especially info technology, has come a long way, and that's what we can thank for this type of "victory".
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:16
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now, as for apologies.
that kind of mentality is ludcrious, especially in a truly democratic society that prides itself on being one of the few nations in the world when a person can speak their mind.
why should they apologize for not having believed things would turn out like this? so they were wrong. but being wrong with opinions is not sufficient grounds for an apology.
this victory? what if there is another attack on american soil? what if another 5k perish? should we demand apologies from all of those who believed the "war" was won in "afghanistan"?
how absurd.
the freedom to opinion without apologies in the american state is something that is meritorious.
now, if you're still with me, which i actually highly doubt that you are, this applies to all forms of opinions.
even the less savory ones.
the only major difference here is that those unsavory ones, i.e., chauvanistic ones, demeaning ones, racist ones, sexist ones, etc etc etc, those are the ones that may be expressed, however unfortunately, but never acted upon. for if we act upon those prejudices, those ignorant beliefs, then we are no better than those mullahs who "teach" their students that it was the japanese who orchestrated this with the swiss, and that the jews knew of this beforehand.
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:16
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and now, finally, dealing with this idea of a "victory":
this war was against terrorism, right? not afghanistan? afghanistan was just the most convinient one, primarily because it also had the ringleader?
i'll place a wager that we've not had the last of it.
victory indeed.
tell that to those crushed under the falling rubble of 100+ stories.
if we're going to adequately remember them, we need to fight the root causes. not just the symptoms.
when you have an infestation of roaches, ones that keep coming back, do you just put out combat and raid roach traps? no, the roaches will soon develop a resistance.
you go about it by getting rid of the root cause, be it actually cleaning up the original mess made, or by demolishing the entire structure in which the mess exists.
that's how you'll get rid of terrorism.
and i'll say this: osama wasn't the root cause.
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