09-12-2001 04:17									#1
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Well, Turkey and France at 16 each, the stalemate line is in place... What can a GM say?

Turkey: Build 2
A Pru Support A War -> Sil
A Gal Support A War -> Sil
A War -> Sil
A Boh Support A Trl -> Mun
A Trl -> Mun Bounce, 2:3
F Tun -> Wes
F Naf Support F Tun -> Wes
F Ion -> Nap
F Tyn Support F Ion -> Nap
F Tus -> Rom Bounce, 1:1
F Lyo Support F Tun -> Wes
A Pie -> Mar Bounce, 1:2
A Ukr -> War
A Mos H

France: Build 2
F Nwy S (Russian) A StP
A Wal-Lon
F Yor S A Wal-Lon
F MAO-Por
F WES-MAO
F ENG S F WES-MAO
F Mar H
A Gas S F Mar
A Mun H
A Bur S A Mun
A Ruh S A Mun
A Ber H
A Kie S A Ber
A Sil H (R: OTB) Dislodged, retreat OTB
F Spa yells "come and get me if you think you're hard
enough!" :-D Bounce on Taurus hard skin

England: Destroyed
A Lon Hold Dislodged, reatreat OTB

Italy: Unchanged (after retreat OTB)
F Rom S F Nap Broken
F Nap S F Rom Dislodged, retreat OTB

Russia: No change
A Stp Hold

map at www.nd.edu/~joxgaard/Extra/Diplomacy/onion-f1909.gif

	09-12-2001 08:03									#2
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We say "build F Bre, A Par"...

	10-12-2001 03:00									#3
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I think that this is the time to propose a fair draw where we both get an equal share of the points...

	12-12-2001 12:15									#4
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Well, I think the main question is whether you two want to finish off Russia and Italy.

The easiest way would propably be if Iain ordered F Lon -> Nth, then next turn ordered
F Nor -> Stp
F Nth -> Nor

And Taurus
A Mos S F Nor -> Stp


Taurus, the points for you and Iain doesn't change whether you have 16 or 17 centers. You each share equally in a two way draw. The only difference is denying Russia and Italy a point each for surviving the game, something I don't think they deserve. Especially Russia, who left the game many years ago...

As long as you leave Liv empty Iain doesn;t have to worry about a stab, and we can have the game over and donw with in two turns. Or we can just end it now.

	12-12-2001 12:17									#5
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Oh, and Taurus, I share your pain... In my last game I ended up exactly the same way... With a 17 center Turkey. It's so frustrating when you realize that the stalemate line is going to hold

	13-12-2001 01:51									#6
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I'd like to hear what Iain says about it...

	13-12-2001 08:15									#7
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Well, can we just rush through two turns at once then?

Spring 1910

Turkey

F Nap-Rom
F TYS S F Nap-Rom
Else hold

England

F Lon-NTH
Else hold

Fall 1910

Turkey

A Mos S (English) F Nwy-StP
Else hold

England

F Nwy-StP
F NTH-Nwy
Else hold

Just say "yes" Taurus and we're all done with a two-way draw. Good game everyone!

	14-12-2001 19:23									#8
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