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Marko Polo is offline Marko Polo
Warlord
Finland, Lohja (60km NW to Helsinki)
Dec 2000
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You know, at the end of the turn you want to check the "unhappy" cities which will riot next turn. Especially when in demo waging a long war where war weariness gradually increases every turn.

I hoped that with the new patch I could sort the cities by happiness at Domestic Advisor. Well I can but that "happy/content" ratio doesn't tell anything about
"happy/unhappy" ratio which is crusial to rioting. Besides, I'm getting funny incorrect numbers from that column anyway and don't really understand how I can utilize that information.

Of course, I can click several times my Domestic Advisor and read her telling me "Rome is happy", "Veii is growing slowly", "Veii is content" and so on in totally random order. Somewhere in the middle she might tell me that "Antioch is unhappy".. Not fun to click her tens of times to find that out. I'd be nice if she'd start with those unhappy/rioting cities first, or what?

At least I can use Dom. Adv. screen to find cities rioting by sorting by production. Those with 0 shields are rioting. This is nice but I REALLY would prefer to PREVENT riots beforehand!

So please, can you share me some "secret" trick you have found out?

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Acutally I have the same problem. My alternative solution is this:

Save your game at the end of each turn. If you meet any revolting cities, simply remember the names of them and load your previous save file.

Marko Polo is offline Marko Polo
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Actually, I use also that save/check riots/load and counter unhappiness (I've over 80 cities now). It's just that this isn't fun way to do it.

City rioting is such a severe issue that IMHO there should be a counter box at the lower right status box which tells how many cities will riot next turn. Then clicking that number would open a popup screen with city names so that you can go to city screen and fix the problem.

Lord Silvi is offline Lord Silvi
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Almost every time civil disorder is caused by pop growth.
So watch for "1" cities at the map. "1"-Cities means pop growth in one turn. The new citizen may be an unhappy one.

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I just look at the faces on the domestic advisor screen. If I am not sure, I put the mouse arrow over the face, and wait a second for the loiter box to pop up. It states if happy, content, or unhappy.

I wonder if in the culture advisor screen you can tell. I know that cities that are celebrating WLTKD are a diffrent color (blue, I think). I don't know about riots, or pre-riots if they show a diffrent color.

I like the cities to riot counter idea. Wasn't that in CtP?

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Yes, there was a counter for "possible rioting cities" in CTP. It was very helpful. I wish this feature was included in some fashion in Civ3, but I guess we can't have everything! I suppose since CTP and CIV are now by different companies we can't get all the great features of all games combined in one! Too bad though!

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