11-12-2001 01:46									#1
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I like to add a special Spanish unit to my TSFE scenario. Only Spanish can build it but Axis get some of them in Eastern Front via events as Spanish Blue Division.

I think that it will be a strong half-motorized (3 move points) infantry unit.

Does anybody have suggestions about the unit? Name? Graphics? I would be very thankful..

	11-12-2001 00:29									#3
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http://members.es.tripod.de/jnroldan/Uniformes.html
http://es.geocities.com/aitalas2001/tierra/tropwehr.htm

Enough!
Sorry Marko but I don't like to keep on searching about this

	11-12-2001 00:41									#4
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Thank you, Waku! I shall check these.

	13-12-2001 04:25									#5
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good idea!!

I think that they´ve made a movie about them if you want more information

	13-12-2001 10:07									#6
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What about those Spaniards who served Free France under De Gaulle? They liberated Paris...

	13-12-2001 12:57									#7
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quote: What about those Spaniards who served Free France under De Gaulle? They liberated Paris...

I think they were integrated in the foreign legion.

	13-12-2001 21:01									#8
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No se, creo que formaban un cuerpo propio de españoles. Y en la liberacion tenian tanques, no se si la legion extranjera usaba tanques...

	13-12-2001 21:05									#9
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Estaban integrados en la Legión Extranjera, mezclados con africanos y gente de aquí y allá. Nunca he leído que hubiese un cuerpo de españoles exclusivamente, y, francamente, me extrañaría mucho.

	13-12-2001 21:17									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera Estaban integrados en la Legión Extranjera, mezclados con africanos y gente de aquí y allá. Nunca he leído que hubiese un cuerpo de españoles exclusivamente, y, francamente, me extrañaría mucho.

No, a los que se refiere El Awrence formaban parte de la división blindada del general LeClerc, que fueron los primeros en entrar en París. No existían como cuerpo aparte, pero sí formaban sus propias compañías (lógicamente) y estaban encuadrados más o menos todos juntos. Los franceses se empeñan en negarlo , pero los primeros tanques que entraron en París tenían nombres españoles pintados (p.ej, el primero en llegar a la Torre Eiffel se llamaba "rosita") y estaban tripulados por soldados españoles, veteranos en su mayoría de la guerra civil.

	13-12-2001 21:22									#11
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quote: Originally posted by jasev No existían como cuerpo aparte, pero sí formaban sus propias compañías (lógicamente) y estaban encuadrados más o menos todos juntos. Los franceses se empeñan en negarlo , pero los primeros tanques que entraron en París tenían nombres españoles pintados (p.ej, el primero en llegar a la Torre Eiffel se llamaba "rosita") y estaban tripulados por soldados españoles, veteranos en su mayoría de la guerra civil.

Sí, eso sí lo había leído, de hecho hace poco leí "Soldados de Salamina", que habla de uno de esos soldados, que había sido durante la guerra civil de la guardia personal de Líster.

	14-12-2001 16:26									#12
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La foto del tanque con la leyenda 'Guadalajara' por los Campos Elisesos es historica.

	14-12-2001 23:01									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee La foto del tanque con la leyenda 'Guadalajara' por los Campos Elisesos es historica.

si???

sabes si hay alguna foto por ahi?
como q españoles bajo las ordenes de de Gaulle?
por lo q me cuenta mi abuela aqui en españa los buenos eran los nazis, hasta q se fue el cuñadisimo,
luego empezaron a ser los malos


by the way,

I think that Marko was expecting some help in English

	14-12-2001 23:03									#14
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I must improve my spanish..

I reorganised units in TSFE and have now 4 free slots for new units. 2 of them is already chosed - Spanish infantry (Spanish can build, Germany gets some via events as Blue Division) and SS Panzers (only via events). Other 2 extra units I haven't yet decided what they will be.

	14-12-2001 23:06									#15
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marko,

fiera, jay and el awrence were talking about spanish troops being the first one to enter in Paris,

I don´t know anything about it but you can ask whatever you want

	14-12-2001 23:14									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Shaka Naldur si??? sabes si hay alguna foto por ahi? como q españoles bajo las ordenes de de Gaulle? por lo q me cuenta mi abuela aqui en españa los buenos eran los nazis, hasta q se fue el cuñadisimo, luego empezaron a ser los malos

I already said it: they were mostly veterans of the Civil War, scaped from spain when the republican forces collapsed. They crossed the Pyrinees and were internated in concentration camps by the frenchies . When Germany invaded Poland, they joined the Foreign Legion to fight against fascism. When the french army collapsed (it began to be usual for the spanish ), many of them achieved to flee into Northern Africa and Britain to join De Gaulle in his free french army. Almost all of them were in LeClerc's mechanized division when the allies disembarked in Normandy, and they were the first allied troops who entered in Paris.

	14-12-2001 23:48									#17
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any picture?

I don´t know exactly how to look for it in the yahoo searcher

	15-12-2001 00:09									#18
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I didn't know that. I have always thought that Free French forces were composed only with French soldiers.

	15-12-2001 00:22									#19
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How many were these Spanish soldiers who served in Free French?

I plan to give 3 Spanish infantry units to Axis in August 1941 and 1 or 2 to Allies in June 1940. The appearance of the unit is problem because they had different uniforms as Spanish infantry, as Blue Division and as Free French troops.

	15-12-2001 00:40									#20
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I didn't know either

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHil...602/scwar5.html

and I can't find the pic

	15-12-2001 01:56									#21
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Here you can find pictures:

http://www.nodo50.org/age/guerrille...olesenparis.htm

Last edited by jasev on 15-12-2001 at 02:02

	15-12-2001 02:16									#22
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Thanks, I'll check out.

	15-12-2001 19:49									#23
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quote: Originally posted by jasev Here you can find pictures:

Thank u Javier

	16-12-2001 23:31									#24
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I have never seen the Guadalajara picture on the net. I have seen it hundreds of times in magazines althought last time I think it was long ago.