11-12-2001 00:21									#1
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I'm doing this school project on the ethics of human cloning, and i'm looking for ideas.

please vote in the polls and post whatever you feel about the ethics of cloning. Thanks!

	11-12-2001 00:46									#2
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Of course it is ethical - it will help a lot of people get cured from truly terrible diseases.

	11-12-2001 00:50									#3
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Why not? As of now, however, it is wrong to actually clone a human embryo and bring it to maturity, because current methods will cause the resulting human being to have numerous medical problems. It's like asking if radiation-induced illness research is okay; it's fine as long as you do it responsibly and don't cause damage to human beings.

	11-12-2001 01:33									#4
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Of course it is.

Obviously, there is still some research to be done before we actually try primates to full term.

	11-12-2001 03:12									#5
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Ethics aside, I don't think we should be doing it. I don't think it's right, that's all.

	11-12-2001 03:30									#6
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Huh? You don't think it's right, but not because of ethics? Should cloning research be stopped because it's against your personal taste?

	11-12-2001 04:00									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Dr.Oogkloot Huh? You don't think it's right, but not because of ethics? Should cloning research be stopped because it's against your personal taste?

I do believe this poll is asking for peoples opinion, and that is exactly what he gave. No reason to jump up his butt about it.


But, I do agree with orange, There are just so many ways these technologies can go wrong / be abused. Though it's partly for ethics, aswell.

	11-12-2001 04:09									#8
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Personally, I'm all for anything with science.

Anyways, no matter what you are going to say, it will happen anyways.

	11-12-2001 04:36									#9
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Pro. I see great potential from the medical spin-offs from the application of this technique, some beyond the scope of the layman in this field of research.

	11-12-2001 04:39									#10
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With cloning, we can finally eliminate the need for oh-so-sinful sex.

	11-12-2001 04:44									#11
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quote: Originally posted by technophile With cloning, we can finally eliminate the need for oh-so-sinful sex.

	11-12-2001 06:45									#12
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Nazi's practiced horrible experiments in the name of science.

	11-12-2001 07:07									#13
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But November- they gave the world much good through some of their research!

I fully support cloning for body parts of people- this way we may be able to extend human life about to 120 years!
Extremely useful!

Good work, fully ethical- and what ARE ethics?
Who really cares about them- if it is for the good of all then let them do it.

People who are going to abort their babies should be forced to gift them to science! Get rid of an evil with a good!
They would die anyway!

	11-12-2001 07:10									#14
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Against. This is human life we are dealing with here. Current cloning techniques have not been sufficently perfected to make the procedure safe.

	11-12-2001 07:13									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld I do believe this poll is asking for peoples opinion, and that is exactly what he gave. No reason to jump up his butt about it. But, I do agree with orange, There are just so many ways these technologies can go wrong / be abused. Though it's partly for ethics, aswell.

Yes. I'm not religious so it isn't about God or anything. To me, it's about people not understanding that they are supposed to die. People want to find the cure to every disease to improve the length of their lives. It's like we're trying to reach for eternity. I just don't like it...people are meant to live and die, and if you die from cancer or AIDS, that's just how it is. I've had relatives die from Cancer, quite a few...so please don't think I'm being heartless. I don't think I am. I'd rather celebrate death than grieve over it. It's a loss, but it's part of what being mortal is all about. You live, you die.

Also, I find it sickening the kinds of ways this technology could be abused. Organ farms and such, on an ethical note yes I do have a problem with that.

	11-12-2001 07:16									#16
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quote: Originally posted by technophile With cloning, we can finally eliminate the need for oh-so-sinful sex.

You're a complete moron...

	11-12-2001 07:20									#17
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud But November- they gave the world much good through some of their research!

I hope you are being sarcastic.

	11-12-2001 07:23									#18
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Strong Pro. All who are against are luddites.

	11-12-2001 07:30									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus You're a complete moron...

Oh, so I suppose you can disprove my belief that sex is sinful?

	11-12-2001 07:30									#20
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November - DarkCloud believes that everyone must be respected. Even the Nazis.

	11-12-2001 07:38									#21
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quote: Originally posted by technophile Oh, so I suppose you can disprove my belief that sex is sinful?

Sex is a gift from Athena you fool!

	11-12-2001 07:41									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus Sex is a gift from Athena you fool!

Ha! Try telling that to Aphrodite, with her lustful ways!

	11-12-2001 07:42									#23
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We must clone humans so that we can put to rest the notion that there is a god.

	11-12-2001 07:45									#24
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quote: Originally posted by technophile Ha! Try telling that to Aphrodite, with her lustful ways!

Afro woman don't got nothing on me!

	11-12-2001 07:46									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Scipio Centaurus We must clone humans so that we can put to rest the notion that there is a god.

And exactly how does that prove that there is no God?

	11-12-2001 07:57									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus And exactly how does that prove that there is no God?

> Humans clone humans.
> God claims to have created humans.
> Ergo humans are now equivalent to god.
> But god will accept no other god before him.
> There are now many qualifying to be god.
> Ergo none qualify.
> Therefore there is no god.

QED

- Scipio
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	11-12-2001 08:09									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Scipio Centaurus > Humans clone humans. > God claims to have created humans.

Could we clone humans without dirt? Nope. We wouldn't be here without dirt.

quote: > Ergo humans are now equivalent to god.

How's that? We've been making humans for years...it's called sex.

quote: > But god will accept no other god before him. > There are now many qualifying to be god.

There have always been other gods.

quote: > Ergo none qualify. > Therefore there is no god. QED - Scipio Delende est Ashcrofto

Welp, you sure proved it. You proved nothing.

	11-12-2001 08:12									#28
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Ahhh ye of little faith...

	12-12-2001 03:28									#29
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	12-12-2001 03:34									#30
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quote: Originally posted by orange Ethics aside, I don't think we should be doing it. I don't think it's right, that's all.

That sounds like it belongs in Stefu's Sporting Wisdom thread...