12-12-2001 09:32									#1
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What are some good candidates for renovation? I'm thinking of perhaps doing ww2mb next, but my knowledge of great scenarios with lousy/outdated graphics is limited.

	12-12-2001 17:03									#2
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There's a great World War 2 Pacific scenario that starts in 1937, but that is just an ordinary scenario - not a modpack.

It was made quite a while ago. Have any of you seen it? Do any of you know who made it? It's attached.

Attachment: wwiijap.zip
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	13-12-2001 00:36									#3
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	13-12-2001 01:56									#4
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Mick Jesenzka Seven Years' War scenario, IMHO.

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	13-12-2001 04:42									#5
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Maybe, some of the scenarios that came with FW and CiC should be updated?

	13-12-2001 05:59									#6
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quote: Originally posted by The ANZAC Maybe, some of the scenarios that came with FW and CiC should be updated?

I think thats what Case seemed to be doing. I just wonder if its technically legal with all the civ3 lawsuits flying around lately ...
Probably wouldn't matter with them being several years old now ...

I was thinking about doing something similar only concentrating on "alternizing" (or Turtledoving ) the scenario's rather than updating the graphics.

	13-12-2001 10:57									#7
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon I think thats what Case seemed to be doing. I just wonder if its technically legal with all the civ3 lawsuits flying around lately ...

I wasn't planning on renovating the microprose scenarios in any kind of systematic way. As for lawsuits, unless I start selling the mods ( ) I don't think that whatever company which owns the rights would give a stuff (hell, I suspect I could sell them and they still wouldn't care)

	13-12-2001 14:06									#8
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Any of Harlan Thompson's WWII scenarios should be graphically updated at least.

	13-12-2001 15:39									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Jimmywax Any of Harlan Thompson's WWII scenarios should be graphically updated at least.

I'm working on them as I type this. Expect a heap 'o stuff tomorrow

	14-12-2001 05:16									#10
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Are you the author of ww2mb?

	17-12-2001 23:20									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Case I wasn't planning on renovating the microprose scenarios in any kind of systematic way...

Some time I started converting the FW Jules-Verne-scenario to ToT to take use of the extended macro language and CSPL as well... It's just the fear of making a scen no one will play with Civ3 out now which prevented me from completing it.

	17-12-2001 23:31									#12
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Dare i suggest most of Hartels scenarios, but especially Darius?
Hartel is a devoted student of history, his scenarios are truly excellent, they are better than a textbook on Persian history as far as i am concerned. BUT - they are making me blind!!! For some reason the terrain images show up as really messed up on my computer - which happens on no other scenarios ive tried. Revealed squares show up as black, almost black, or as wrong terrain type. clicking on them sometimes helps, sometimes not. I can say its a tribute to Hartel that ive kept playing them anyway so good are they, but id be delighted if someone could solve the terrain graphics problems.

LOTM

	18-12-2001 01:33									#13
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I'm currently redoing John Petroski's New Germany, by adding Nemoesque graphics, redoing the tech tree slightly, removing useless units and adding some useful ones, and making it more of a Zweiter Weltkrieg "you control the war, not the other way around" kind of scenario, so that there are very few historical events in it; the history is written by your actions.

	18-12-2001 02:06									#14
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LOTM,

quote: Hartel is a devoted student of history, his scenarios are truly excellent, they are better than a textbook on Persian history as far as i am concerned.

Thanks for the flowers,- such encouragement is necessary, as I'm working on a 20-page project on Alexander the Great for school.

quote: BUT - they are making me blind!!! For some reason the terrain images show up as really messed up on my computer - which happens on no other scenarios ive tried. Revealed squares show up as black, almost black, or as wrong terrain type. clicking on them sometimes helps, sometimes not. I can say its a tribute to Hartel that ive kept playing them anyway so good are they, but id be delighted if someone could solve the terrain graphics problems.

I'm well aware of that problem. I've experienced it in several other scenarios, though I can't really say which ones. If I find out, I'll see what combines both. As soon as I find out, I promise, I'll do my best to fix that.
I'm glad you enjoyed my scenarios!

	18-12-2001 04:14									#15
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quote: Hartel is a devoted student of history, his scenarios are truly excellent, they are better than a textbook on Persian history as far as i am concerned. BUT - they are making me blind!!! For some reason the terrain images show up as really messed up on my computer - which happens on no other scenarios ive tried. Revealed squares show up as black, almost black, or as wrong terrain type. clicking on them sometimes helps, sometimes not. I can say its a tribute to Hartel that ive kept playing them anyway so good are they, but id be delighted if someone could solve the terrain graphics problems.

If you mess with (something that stores the color data in the file, forgot what its called ) then that is the result. This happened to me when converting Win scenarios to my Mac. Generally,going from .bmp or .gif to .pict is fine, but anything else could cause problems.

Or the file may be corrupted.

	15-07-2002 03:11									#16
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Where can these CiC and FW scenarios be found?

	15-07-2002 03:53									#17
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo *hisses and makes other threatening noises* Are you the author of ww2mb?

i don't know if he is, but he's working on a pacific war scenario right now, even if it seems like he's never going to finish

	15-07-2002 22:28									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Jimmywax Any of Harlan Thompson's WWII scenarios should be graphically updated at least.

I did a units and city pack for his WWII scenario using mostly Nemo units, and a few others.

	16-07-2002 14:07									#19
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Here's a screen shot of the units in action.

Attachment: harlon.gif
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	16-07-2002 14:32									#20
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Wheeee! Whooosh...k-pow! k-pow! k-pow! Ka-BOOM!!

Seriously, very nice unit update Chris

	16-07-2002 15:52									#21
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Hey, Chris, that looks good. One thing though, the shield on the ME 262 (the jet, I thinks that's the right name) is a bit to far to the right.

Maybe you already noticed that but, well, I'm a nitpicker.

	16-07-2002 19:31									#22
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Probaly happened when I copied it, must have moved the shield dot a bit!

	16-07-2002 19:39									#23
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon I was thinking about doing something similar only concentrating on "alternizing" (or Turtledoving ) the scenario's rather than updating the graphics.

I am Turtledoving as we speak! Would anyone like to playtest?

	16-07-2002 19:49									#24
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Made a few more shots to show the units.

Here is the Western front:

Attachment: western front.gif
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	16-07-2002 19:53									#25
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German assault on Oslo:

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	16-07-2002 19:56									#26
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And finally, the Balkan front:

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	17-07-2002 05:15									#27
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I released renovations of Harlan's WW2 in Europe, Mongols and Vikings scenario late last year

Here's my attempt that reworking the WW2 in Europe graphics:

Attachment: ww2euro.zip
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	17-07-2002 05:46									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Michael Daumen I am Turtledoving as we speak! Would anyone like to playtest?

which turtledove story are you doing? scottF did a great job doing the greatwar storyline just a couple months ago

	17-07-2002 07:09									#29
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Err, I mean my current scenario starts as historical but follows a road not taken.

But I am interested in a GW scenario. Could you let me know where I can download it?

Last edited by Michael Daumen on 17-07-2002 at 07:15

	17-07-2002 10:45									#30
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What's the timeline of the scenario?