13-12-2001 02:08									#1
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How about a Complain Forum? Why not make a forum where people can rant and rave and complain without clogging up the people on this board who are just looking for general information?

	13-12-2001 02:26									#2
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I second this motion.

	13-12-2001 02:49									#3
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seconded! seconded seconded seconded! please, please, give it to us (a forum which the Faraxis ppl can ignore, also)...

-- adaMada

	13-12-2001 02:50									#4
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we have plenty of those forums - civ3 help, civ3 general, civ3 creation, etc...

	13-12-2001 02:58									#5
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quote: Originally posted by ElitePersian we have plenty of those forums - civ3 help, civ3 general, civ3 creation, etc...

Isn't that the truth!

I vote YES on the motion.

	13-12-2001 03:25									#6
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Hmmm....so....if I wanted to COMPLAIN about the existence of a complaint forum....where would I go?



I like the idea, but I suspect if it were so, then the mods would find themselves:

a) having to constantly move threads from here to the new section
b) having to make distinctions and judgement calls on whether something was a complaint or a simple debate/disagreement
c) have to make further judgement calls on what to do with threads that were both (ie - a thread that started out sane and rational, but had a variety of complaints dropped in the midst of it).

I like the concept, but fear the implementation may prove difficult.

-=Vel=-

	13-12-2001 03:30									#7
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im with vel

	13-12-2001 03:33									#8
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Oh, there's no doubt that you're right, Vel. Frugal was just trying to make a point -- a point I happened to agree with. It *is* too bad that some people devolve perfectly professional, logical, and sane threads into nothing more than flame wars and boring/repetitive drivel.

	13-12-2001 04:22									#9
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Im propose that this thread is immediatly moved to said forum when it is created.

	13-12-2001 05:45									#10
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There wouldn't be so many complaints if Civ3 was stable and the AI not so quirky.

At the moment Firaxis seem to be receiving but not transmitting. I feel like one of a large community of beta testers. What it needs is for Firaxis to acknowledge all the bugs, tell us that they are fixing them, and which 'missing' features will/will not be in patches. That alone would reduce the complaints significantly.

Then, if people would be more positive, we wouldn't have any complaints, only lobby groups of one kind or another trying to get a future feature promoted up the 'hit list' of planned changes.

	13-12-2001 05:56									#11
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Hmmmm... there already is a complaint forum. It's called the CivIII General forum

But seriously... as long as people don't get personal and start flame wars, it is OK to complain about the game. People are welcome to their opinion. Many people like the game, and many don't like it... that's life... deal with it.

I will say that I've started deleting or closing complaint threads that are just rants or don't add anything new. It really isn't to hard to find a thread to complain in, so many new ones aren't really needed. (especially the ones that are just the same whines over and over again)

	13-12-2001 07:53									#12
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The problem is I think that after a few months the complaints will die down and the "hardcore, I am googly eyes Civ 3" types will still be here. Except Yin, he'll be here forever

	13-12-2001 08:19									#13
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...and he'll outpost us all.

K

PS I'm glad this community is so uncomplicated, with the various camps so well lined up. I remember when XCOM 2 and C&C came out and nobody knew which side to be on. Message boards are always the same, but it's nice to know where people stand just by looking at their name.

K

	13-12-2001 10:03									#14
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Would there be a way to route anything Yin and Venger posted directly to the complaint forum?














It's a joke.

	13-12-2001 10:05									#15
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But if I agree with you, you'll never see this post!

	13-12-2001 13:50									#16
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Why doesn't everyone just smoke a joint.

That would solve *all* of the world's problems.

	13-12-2001 15:53									#17
	Continuing on Vel's path. Suffering from ads?

I think that CivIII right now is great potential wasted, but with hope. Sure I'm mad about several things but in the end I want to see that FIRAXIS fixis those problems.

So would my talks belong to complain-forum or could I be allowed to post here too??

	14-12-2001 04:02									#18
	Re: Continuing on Vel's path. Suffering from ads?

quote: Originally posted by Jeje2 I think that CivIII right now is great potential wasted, but with hope. Sure I'm mad about several things but in the end I want to see that FIRAXIS fixis those problems. So would my talks belong to complain-forum or could I be allowed to post here too??

Well... your name has a two at the end... and yin's name has a two at the end... DL! Ban him to the complains fourm!

-- adaMada

	14-12-2001 11:49									#19
	Re: Re: Continuing on Vel's path. Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by adaMada Well... your name has a two at the end... and yin's name has a two at the end... DL! Ban him to the complains fourm! -- adaMada

ROTFLMAO
Well, it took you some time to discover it...

Worst thing was to read this while supervicing an exam.
(It's not everyday the supervicer begins LOL & ROTFL in the middle of an exam.)

	14-12-2001 12:13									#20
	Suffering from ads?

Ever wonder why the signatures share something? Hmmm ... took people long enough! Jeje2 is my Good Twin. I am the Evil Voice. We share one brain!

	14-12-2001 21:54									#21
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I suggest that a new forum titled "Civ4" be started. We might as well get started on the next one since it is doubtful that Civ3 will ever live up to our expectations.

	15-12-2001 14:18									#22
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 We share one brain!

Care to lend our brain"cell" to me for a while?
I really would need it for my "Safe CivIII"-plan.

	15-12-2001 14:23									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Frugal_Gourmet How about a Complain Forum? Why not make a forum where people can rant and rave and complain without clogging up the people on this board who are just looking for general information?

Good idea! I agree with above 100%