13-12-2001 08:29									#1
	Disappointed Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Ok, I bought CivIII the first day it was released, and, even though I have a limited schedual for game play, have managed to put many hours into the game. So now, after having won games by Space, Diplomatic, Military, and Domination I have to ask - why do you only get a victory animation on the Space victory. I'm curious if anyone has won by culture - and if it potentially has a video (or anything beyond a simple pop up window that say's "X victory). I really love the game, but to me the video or victory animation is a big bonus for having worked so hard to get to what ever state.

Opinions, comments, thoughts?

I'm just a bit fustrated seeing the pop up on a game that took many hours of stratigy and game play to win.

	13-12-2001 09:34									#2
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

One idea, if you bought the Limited Edition, is to play the 10 minute Firaxis video as a reward to yourself. Watching Sid at the piano is surely a rare treat. Go ahead. You deserve it.

	13-12-2001 09:37									#3
	Suffering from ads?

Good one.

Of course I bought the limited edition, I've been a freakin' addict to Civ since it first came out. Hey, great game... I just always liked the bonus at the end. Guess you can't have it all.

	13-12-2001 09:48									#4
	Inflate your Upload Space

LOL! Well, then, I don't think it would be too hard to edit the victory screen to say: 'Insert Tape Now'.

[...seriously, I agree with you. In fact, I think very little thought was given to what motivates a gamer in the first place.]

	13-12-2001 10:07									#5
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Jeeze! Now you whinners want a reward for winning too?

Don't you know that you have to spend $50 more for the Super-duper-deluxe-limited-multi-golden-this-is-the-final-version-and-we-really-mean-it-this-time edition?

Next thing you know, you'll be wanting to make MODs too. You people make me sick.

	13-12-2001 10:33									#6
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Well, you can't have it all. I have felt many of the changes/improvements were well thought out and executed. I like the strategic resources and culture. But in the end, it often is the simple pleasures that really push you along.

As a 10 year player of the Civ series (and a player of every manifestation from Civ I through Civ III, as well as CTP1 and 2) I have to say over all it's a great work. But the lack of senarios (for creating accurate WWII games or what have you) and this most recently unvieled lack of "rewards" after a hard fought game... well, they've dampened my enthusiasm for the CivIII version of the game.

BTW - has anyone actually won Cultural yet? It's the only victory I haven't finished, and am hesitant to try as I fear the "victory" may not be any more rewarding than the "domanance victory"

	13-12-2001 10:42									#7
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I won culturally...its just as impressive as the other options...a text box and a screen with all the leader pics...

	13-12-2001 10:51									#8
	Get a bigger avatar today!

aren't we all impressed... i couldn't stand to play more than 4 hours of the game before i shelved it and went back to civ2. there was just something about having to start over from the begining of time AGAIN that didn't appeal to me. Give me those old time scenarios!

	13-12-2001 12:00									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Start from Civ and play all the way to CivIII. I'm told that it all comes together then.