14-12-2001 22:09									#1
	Civ3 is not a war game it's about culture Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

So this is Xmas
And what have you done
Another year over
And a new one just begun
And so this is Xmas
I hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear

And so this is Xmas
For weak and for strong
For rich and the poor ones
The world is so wrong
And so happy Xmas
For black and for white
For yellow and red ones
Let's stop all the fight

A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear

And so this is Xmas
And what have we done
Another year over
A new one just begun
And so happy Xmas
We hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear
War is over, if you want it
War is over now

Happy Xmas


Happy Xmas (War Is Over)
Yoko Ono & John Lennon

	15-12-2001 00:13									#2
	Put an end to popups!

civ isn't a war game, i have word word to say: DUH!

	15-12-2001 04:22									#3
	Well, it ACTS like a war game... Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I'm trying to play it with culture, diplomacy, and development. I try to arrange a reasonable defense. I build roads to connect my cities early, and I build roads to connect with the AI so that trading is permitted. I expand my cities, keeping a coherent border for their protection from easy cultural takeover.

And what happens every time? Some AI I haven't met yet appears on my border and sends 40 or 50 swordsmen and war chariots swarming in like locusts. They have like 2 cities, were "randomly" placed on top of iron and horses, and have done nothing all game but crank out units, saving them just for me.

No such thing as too many units for their civ to support for them. No such thing as corruption for them. As far as I can tell, I can't even go into "cheat" mode to study what they are doing to see if it is possible for me to do the same.

	15-12-2001 07:24									#4
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Someone call Firaxis and tell them to delete all the military units from the game.

I am curious - were Civ and Civ2 war games?

Venger

	15-12-2001 07:27									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

quote: Originally posted by Venger Someone call Firaxis and tell them to delete all the military units from the game. I am curious - were Civ and Civ2 war games? Venger

[Firaxis Mode]
We have supplied an Editor.

Using our wonderful editor you can remove all of the military units from the game yourself.

Our editor makes it possible to play CivIII exactly how *you* want it.

Have a good day.
[/firaxis mode]

	15-12-2001 07:50									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

huh?

	15-12-2001 14:48									#7
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I dunno about you lot but my tanks are very cultural.

They have ran over many civs histories.

	16-12-2001 00:50									#8
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote: Originally posted by Kolyana [Firaxis Mode] We have supplied an Editor. Using our wonderful editor you can remove all of the military units from the game yourself. Our editor makes it possible to play CivIII exactly how *you* want it. Have a good day. [/firaxis mode]

Thank you so much. We should do your work for you, in other words, to make a playable game of it?

I do not particularly want to create some unique set of changes that only I play. Quite frankly, I have very little interest in SP mode. Anyone who wants to adjust the program to sufficiently stupid/advantageous play so that they can win, is welcome to do so. As far as I am concerned, SP is just a training ground for real (MP) competition.

What I want (and what I was led to expect) was a game that (as designed) was fair, challenging, and complex, on its own, in SP mode. What I got was something far less than the sum of its parts (thank you Venger). The very things most promoted (culture, diplomacy, building) are the very things least apparent in gameplay.

Having to make my game a unique edited experience is the exact opposite of what I expected and wanted. I can't return it to the place I purchased it, because it took so long to even be able to load it and play it that the 30 days had passed.

The game is garbage. Can I return it to you for a refund?

	16-12-2001 01:56									#9
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

quote: Originally posted by cavebear Thank you so much. We should do your work for you, in other words, to make a playable game of it? I do not particularly want to create some unique set of changes that only I play. Quite frankly, I have very little interest in SP mode. Anyone who wants to adjust the program to sufficiently stupid/advantageous play so that they can win, is welcome to do so. As far as I am concerned, SP is just a training ground for real (MP) competition. What I want (and what I was led to expect) was a game that (as designed) was fair, challenging, and complex, on its own, in SP mode. What I got was something far less than the sum of its parts (thank you Venger). The very things most promoted (culture, diplomacy, building) are the very things least apparent in gameplay. Having to make my game a unique edited experience is the exact opposite of what I expected and wanted. I can't return it to the place I purchased it, because it took so long to even be able to load it and play it that the 30 days had passed. The game is garbage. Can I return it to you for a refund?

[Infogreed mode]
No, that would be in breach of copyright laws and we'd be forced to slap you with a writ and a cease & desist order.

Please refrain from having such thoughts. Those thoughts are copyrighted for your protection.
[/infogreed mode]