17-08-2000 13:05									#1
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It sometimes happens that while I'm busy building a wonder an AI civ builds it and I have no other wonders left to build...in these cases I usually keep building the already built wonder in order not to lose the hundreds of shields (and I ignore the warning messages or turn them off), and when a new wonder becomes available I switch to that new wonder to build it very quickly.
Would you see this as cheating?

Dr.Oogkloot

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	17-08-2000 15:15									#2
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Wos-up Doc?? Ha ha?!?!!? Sorry, Nah, i wouldn't consider it cheating!!! I mean it's no different to starting building Marco Polos embassy cause it's the only one available and switching to Copernicus' Observatory, when it becomes available!!!

Plus, the game seams to have been written to allow this, as if you switch production Groups, you lose 50% of your shields, and therefore they could easily have written it to include wonders!!!


Problem solved, you're not going to Azkaban after all!!!!

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	17-08-2000 16:48									#3
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I'll see if i can beat jpk here and say book 3 of the J.K. Rowlings series

So, do I get a Hippogryph ride? Come to think of it, I really could use one of those clocks Hermione had

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SCG: darn, I've never really got the hang of that tribute thing, guess it will be a long time until i make prince

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	17-08-2000 17:34									#4
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Very good, Ha ha, notification of your prize is on the way in the Normal way!!!!

	18-08-2000 09:37									#5
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Great idea I normally loss my coins and pick something I want the next turn. But I do not think it is cheating.

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	17-08-2000 23:24									#6
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I don't think that is cheating. If the designers didn't want it to happen they would have changed it. But since it is still here, use it!

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	18-08-2000 08:47									#7
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I don't think its a cheat.There is no guarantee you will get another wonder.At least not in MP.You could have a city "stuck" for a long time.

Its kinda what Capitolization is for.Or what the benefit is/can be.

	18-08-2000 19:16									#8
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Not cheating IMHO, but as Smash says it's not always a desirable position to be in.

Carolus

	18-08-2000 22:32									#10
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well if it is cheating, then the enire gameleague should be charged.

	19-08-2000 01:05									#11
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No, not cheating. If it is cheating, I've been a bad boy from day one.

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	19-08-2000 11:55									#12
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OK it's obvious people don't see it as a cheat...that's what I expected, but I still think it's a little bit in the gray area because it seems to me it wasn't intended. But I'll continue doing it, then.

	20-08-2000 09:48									#13
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I've done the same thing, both with wonders, and with buildings (on the odd occasion that i had built all the available structures and had a tech like construction (aquaduct/colosseum) coming in shortly.

Personally, my thought would be if they really didn't want this as an option, they would force you to change like with obsolete units, rather than just giving you a warning.

	30-08-2000 09:12									#14
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I do that all the time...


And building the same wonder on three cities so that when new wonders come availiable, i can switch to them.

	30-08-2000 14:49									#15
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And what about this:
Irrigation or farmland shows up on squares where enemy civs have built (yet undiscovered) cities. That way you can easily spot newly built cities...
Another way to find cities, in unexplored land, is to go into "view pieces" mode (right-click) and then left-click on a square. When there's no city in the square, the map will center on it; when there is a city on that square the map will not center on this square. This can be pretty handy at times. Is this cheating?

If there's one thing I hate it's conquering the whole world and then finding out there's one tiny city left... But I don't know where that damned city is! Using the above methods makes it a little easier finding it.

	30-08-2000 17:03									#16
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on the subject of finding "undiscovered" cities. The Apollo program will (in 2.42 anyway, i don't think it did in 1.07) show new cities as they are founded. Also, you could always get an embassy with the lone civ if you don't have contact (MPE, UN) and try and to share maps - usually a 1 city civ will be worshipful of you, so you probably wouldn't even need to gift anything to improve their attitude. Once worshipful, they usually exchange maps.

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April Cantor: Sire, in order to expand further we must first gain favor of the King

SCG: darn, I've never really got the hang of that tribute thing, guess it will be a long time until i make prince

*goes off and starts gifting gold and techs*