16-12-2001 16:03									#1
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Howdy,

Well, I've been playing this highly addictive game for about a month now, but something weird has started to happen, the weirdness looks like this:

CIVILIZATION3 has caused an invalid page fault in modul CIVILIZATION3.EXE on the address 017f:00403046.
Indhold af registrene:
EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00403046 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=005c6858 SS=0187 ESP=00abf9e4 EBP=01570eb0
ECX=10f7d8ac DS=0187 ESI=10f7d8ac FS=52df
EDX=00000f5f ES=0187 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Byte ved CS:EIP:
8b 80 3c 01 00 00 83 c1 58 8b 50 04 52 e8 a8 80
Indhold af stakken:
00000000 004063f3 00000000 10f7d8ac 10f7d740 01d05c60 0000149e 00000000 00586642 005c6858 0050d38d 10f7d520 00abfa50 00593b1b ffffffff 004eaf38

(Partly translated from Danish, error message might read differently on other machines.)

Personally this error messages is a complete mystery to me, I have no idea what it is trying to say (aside that the game has crashed, of course), or what to do about it.

I used to have DirectX 8.1 but killed it so I could go back to 8.0a, still didn't work, have the latest drives for my videocard (I assume the latest is the 23.11 thingy), a GeForce DDR, and now I'm fresh out of ideas.

I'm playing with the v1.16f patch.

Oh, and my whole system looks like this:

AMD Athlon 750
160 mb RAM
GeForce DDR
Sound Blaster Live! Bulk
Running Windows 98 Second Edition

I suppose those are the most important information.

The error always happens at the same time, I have two games that now crash when it's my turn again, there does not appear to be any order or any chance of predicting when an ongoing game will crash, it simply does at some point in the game, though both of the games have crashed in the Industrial Age...

Anyway, if anyone has any idea, or suggestion, or any kind of aid they can offer, it would be very nice.

Right now about the only thing I can think of is reinstalling Win98se, and I would really much rather not do that.

Thanks in advance to anyone that might take the time to ponder my problem.

Nightingale

	16-12-2001 21:20									#2
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Can you post the save?

	16-12-2001 23:03									#3
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I can try, though it is probably too big... 5½ mb

	16-12-2001 23:04									#4
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That didn't seem to work, if you have a fast internet connection, and you're willing to look at it, I could mail it too you?

	16-12-2001 23:48									#5
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How ig is it if you zip it?

	17-12-2001 00:34									#6
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A lot smaller!


I'll try to attach it again...

Attachment: game.rar
This has been downloaded 1 time(s).

	17-12-2001 00:36									#7
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That seemed to work, and regardless of the result, thanks for taking the time to look at it.

	17-12-2001 00:54									#8
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At what time does the error occur?

What do you do before?

	17-12-2001 01:36									#9
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Should be quite easy, the game is saved just as a turn is ending, end it, wait until it's your turn again, some city will want a new build order, immidiately after giving it that new order, and moving on (either by pressing OK, or exiting the city screen), the game crashes... at least it does for me.

If it doesn't for you then I guess it is a problem with my system entirely, that wouldn't surprise me greatly...

	17-12-2001 02:05									#10
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It seems to work for me. I ended the turn, traded maps with a civ, (which I don't remember now), traded Tech with Romans. Clicked OK on that order. Everything seemed to work.


I'll test it again later.

	17-12-2001 02:11									#11
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Well, if the game doesn't crash for you then it probably won't crash at all, I've tried over and over again to tweak or alter something both in the game, and on my 'puter, the game still crashed each and every time I'm done with that build order.

So I guess it is a problem with my system only, that's good to know at least, the option to reinstall Windows is starting to sound like the way to go.

Unless you have any idea what could cause the kind of page fault as shown in the first post?

Thanks for your effort though, much appreciated.

	17-12-2001 02:27									#12
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You must have attached the wrong sav. There was no building finished the next turn.

	17-12-2001 02:48									#13
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No? That's strange, Japan.sav is the file's name.

It's probably because we play using different rules, I've altered my civ3mod file quite a bit to better suit my preferences.

	17-12-2001 02:53									#14
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Could you post that file then?

	17-12-2001 03:02									#15
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Surely! Let me see...

That should do it.

Nice smilies here.

Attachment: civ3mod.rar
This has been downloaded 1 time(s).

	17-12-2001 04:01									#16
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Jag tittar på det imorgon.


I'll check on that tomorrow.

	17-12-2001 04:17									#17
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I mannaged to reproduse the crash nor . I'll see if there is anything to do about it, but that will have to wait.

	17-12-2001 08:55									#18
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Make sure you are in the same screen size and color depth as the game (usually 1024x768 at 16-bit). I know when I exit or load a game, the game crashes when I started the game at 800x600 at 32-bit (my normal screen settings).

	17-12-2001 15:42									#19
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Indeed? Well that puts a whole new spin on the situation then, I guess, I did not think it was possible to make the game crash simply because of some changes to the rules, I did not change graphics or anything like that, simply changed unit stats, resources, terrain, and some buildings... is this what one would call a bug then? If you have a "clean" civ3mod that works with the patch, perhaps you could attach it? Better to play with standard rules if the game works with them.

Thrawn05: I tried starting the game using the same screen size, and colour depth, still crashed, but thanks for the suggestion.

	17-12-2001 18:08									#20
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Right, well I managed to get my game working again, since the problem was in the modified editor I went searching for anything that might cause problems in there.

Since the Explorer unit is so amazingly useless in the game (I think so anyway), I had made my own little unit, using Rifleman graphics, and with some changed stats, just to make that unit slot into something one might actually consider using... well, I just removed that unit, and put the explorer back, and lo! The game runs smoothly again... guess the moral of the story is that you should not mess with the units, aside from changing their stats, hope they do something about this bug (?) in some later patch.

Thanks for the help, Gramphos, I couldn't have isolated, and solved, the problem without you.