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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:16
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The Koreans:
Proper: The Koreans
Noun: Koreans
Adj.: Korean
Title: Daewang
Ruler (Gender): Sejong (Male)
Leaders (Surname, Firstname):
1. Tangun
2. Yi Sunshin
3. Tongmyong
4. Onjo
5. Hyokkose Kosogan
6. Taejo
Unique Unit:
Kobukson (3/3/3; Saltpeter and Iron); replaces frigate
Civilization Strengths: Scientific, Commercial
Favored Government: Monarchy
Shunned Government: Communism
Cities:
Seoul-shi
P'yeongyang-shi
Inch'eon
Daejeon-shi
Daegu-shi
Kwangju-shi
Pusan-shi
Ulsan-shi
Namp'o-shi
Kaeseong-shi
Kyeongju-shi
Chaeju-shi
Ch'angwon-shi
Cheonju-shi
Ch'eongju-shi
Suwon-shi
Ch'unch'eon-shi
Haeju-shi
Shinuiju-shi
Hamheung-shi
Ch'eongjin-shi
Seogwip'o-shi
Mokp'o-shi
Kunsan-shi
Namwon-shi
Chinju-shi
Chinhae-shi
Masan-shi
Kimhae-shi
P'ohang-shi
Andong-shi
Yeongju-shi
Kumi-shi
Asan-shi
Ch'eonan-shi
Ch'ungju-shi
Uijeongbu-shi
Seongnam-shi
Anyang-shi
Osan-shi
P'yeongtaek-shi
Wonju-shi
Sokch'o-shi
Songrim-shi
Sariwon-shi
Wonsan-shi
Heungnam-shi
Najin-shi
Seongjin-shi
Naju-shi
Sunch'eon-shi
Yeoch'eon-shi
Yeosu-shi
Kwangyang-shi
Iksan-shi
Kimchae-shi
Cheongup-shi
Sach'eon-shi
Tongyeong-shi
Keochae-shi
Kyeongsan-shi
Yeongch'eon-shi
Kimch'eon-shi
Sasan-shi
Kongju-shi
Boryeong-shi
Nonsan-shi
Chaech'eon-shi
Dongduch'eon-shi
Koyang-shi
Namyangju-shi
Kuri-shi
Kwangmyeong-shi
Kwach'eon-shi
Hanam-shi
Shiheung-shi
Ansan-shi
Kunp'o-shi
Uiwang-shi
Yongin-shi
Daebaek-shi
Samch'eok-shi
Donghae-shi
Kangreung-shi
Haesan-shi
Shinp'o-shi
Manp'o-shi
Kangkyae-shi
Huich'eon-shi
Kuseong-shi
Portraits of Daewang Sejong:
on the W10000 bill at:
http://www.chrealty.co.kr/content/g...tk_currency.htm
a portrait on a throne is at:
www.jaars.org/museum/alphabet/ people/sejong.htm
a statue at:
www.typographie.org/trajan/ hangul/hangul_1.html
www.angelfire.com/hi3/livingworkshop/ korean.html
www.pennfamily.org/KSS-USA/ hist-map5.html
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Berkeley, California (or) Fairfax, Virginia
Jul 1999
time: 05:16
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Anyway, i noticed that there were only five leaders, and while I don't know how many there hsould be, here are a few more suggestions:
Yi Song-gye --circa fourteenth century - General who wiped out the Chinese invaders "Red Turbans" 150,000 strong
Chunjong and Nammo - the two girls who were founders of the Hwoarang youth corps but ended up killing each other
Kim Yu-Shin - member of the Hwoarang who helped to unify Shilla, circa 600s AD
Ulchi Mundok - circa late sixth century, Koguryan commander who destroyed an invasion force from the Sui Dynasty that was 1,130,000 men strong
if more needed, i'd be happy to pull them up.
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:16
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quote:
Until recently, commercial activity was frowned upon by most Koreans. This is because the Koreans adhered to the strictest of Confucian ethics looking down upon merchants as lower than peasants. Trading goods for money was considered dirty.
On the other hand, they have always been religious. Shamanism has played an important role as well as Buddhism and today, Christianity. A lot of the Koreans I know are church fanatics.
That is why the Koreans should be religious in a Civ III expansion pack. |
yeah, the second one actually gave me a lot of pause, before i decided on commercial.
the reason i ended up how i did, with commercial, as opposed to religious or industrious, is that the way i see it, the two eras in which korea was successful (pre-industrial age and modern age), was that science was always there; and commercial, i think, proved to be a bigger influence in bringing korea from third-world to first-world in less than fifty years. religious i almost considered, but decided to go against because the religious aspect has all but vanished from the modern korea, at least, a strong, single, unifying religion/religious group.
the only one i'm perfectly certain with is scientific. as for the second, that's still up in the air, but i'm leaning commercial.
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:16
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arg, this makes me so mad. on this cursed 28.8 connection (i don't know why my 56k modem isn't working) that i have at home, often i get errors from apolyton such as: "too many visitors", or "thread not specified", or "page not found"...
so my response is gone, flown into the wind.
siredgar: what my response was, originally, was something along the lines of how although i agree with your points, i still think the fact that going from abysmal economy to 13th worldwide, merits much attention.
the best we can hope to do, however, is when firaxis takes suggestions or even looks at this, that we'll have to present our cases and let them decide.
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yin26
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This space reserved for Darkstar.
Apr 1999
time: 14:16
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LOL! Yes, if we don't mind using the names used within the cities, I think we'll never see New Seoul. I kind of like the -gu, etc., extensions. Adds a nice flavor to the game. 
You'll also notice, though, some of the cities use district names like "North" "South" "East" "West," etc. So you can't use those more than once, I suppose, unless you run the whole city + district name together. At any rate, still more than enough to work with, I think. And if we add North Corea here ...
Last edited by yin26 on 24-12-2001 at 18:00
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:16
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thanks, yin!  very comprehensive list. i'll be trying to rank them by population soon... or be trying to.
the city list, edited again. I won't use the provinces, or the other divisions, just cities (yin, my extended family lives in Ch'ongju-si, Heungduk-gu... next time i'm there, i may give you a ring. won't be there for a while, but...). the methodology follows as: capitals ranked first, then the city-states, then province capitals, then the cities i've heard of, then other cities.
i've decided to keep the -si designator (literally means "city"), but i'm going to remove the "kwang yuk" or "deuk byul" additions for seoul and the other city-states, so everything will be "-si".
in terms of romanization and pronunciation, however, i'm torn between leaving it as "-si" or "-shi" which is closer to how it should be pronounced...
on another note, this is what i've found in terms of provinces for nkorea/ncorea, and cities within those provinces; these will not be following the mccune-reischauer, or moe systems; i'm using a system that i think more closely follows m-r, but since i don't have the chart commited to memory, and i'm doing this straight from korean...:
nkorea, ca. 1995
hamkyeongbuk-do (north hamkyeong province)
ch'eongjin-shi
hoeryeong-shi
najin-shi
seongjin-shi
onseong-shi
kyeongwon-shi
kyeongheung-shi
unggi-shi
musan-shi
buryeong-shi
yeonsa-shi
jueul-shi
yeorang-shi
yeongan-shi
myeongch'eon-shi
hwadae-shi
hamkyeongnam-do (south hamkyeong province)
hamheung-shi
danch'eon-shi
shinp'o-shi
heoch'eon-shi
bucheon-shi
changjin-shi
deokseong-shi
iwon-shi
shinheung-shi
bukch'eong-shi
heungwon-shi
oro-shi
doejo-shi
hamju-shi
cheongp'yeong-shi
yodeok-shi
yeongheung-shi
kowon-shi
yanggang-do (yanggang province)
hyesan-shi
samjiyeon-shi
daeheungdan-shi
boch'eon-shi
baekam-shi
huch'ang-shi
shinp'a-shi
samsu-shi
unheung-shi
kapsan-shi
p'ungseo-shi
p'ungsan-shi
jagang-do (jagang province)
kankyae-shi
manp'o-shi
heuich'eon-shi
chunggang-shi
chaseong-shi
hwap'yeong-shi
changgang-shi
shijung-shi
uiwon-shi
dongmungeori-shi
ch'osan-shi
seonggan-shi
ushi-shi
kop'ung-shi
cheonch'eon-shi
yongrim-shi
songwon-shi
dongshin-shi
p'yeonganbuk-do (north p'yeongan province)
shinuiju-shi
kuseong-shi
cheongju-shi
songseo-shi
ch'angseong-shi
sakju-shi
uiju-shi
daekwan-shi
dongch'ang-shi
unsan-shi
ch'eonma-shi
p'ihyeon-shi
yongch'eon-shi
yeomju-shi
donglim-shi
taech'eon-shi
yeongbyeon-shi
kujang-shi
shindo-shi
seonch'eon-shi
ch'eolsan-shi
kwaksan-shi
unjun-shi
p'yeongannam-do (south p'yeongan province)
p'yeongseong-shi
deokch'eon-shi
kaech'eon-shi
anju-shi
sunch'eon-shi
daeheung-shi
yeongwon-shi
maengsan-shi
bukch'ang-shi
mundeok-shi
sukch'eon-shi
seongch'eon-shi
yeongyu-shi
shinyang-shi
yangdeok-shi
daedong-shi
hoech'ang-shi
cheungsan-shi
onch'eon-shi
hwanghaebuk-do (north hwanghae province)
sariwon-shi
songrim-shi
shinp'yong-shi
yeonsan-shi
koksan-shi
hwangju-shi
yeontan-shi
suan-shi
shinkyae-shi
bongsan-shi
seoheung-shi
p'yongsan-shi
eunp'a-shi
insan-shi
keumch'eon-shi
tosan-shi
hwanghaenam-do (south hwanghae province)
haeju-shi
eunch'eon-shi
eundyul-shi
anak-shi
p'ungch'eon-shi
songhwa-shi
chaeryeong-shi
samch'eon-shi
changan-shi
yongyeon-shi
shinwon-shi
bongch'eon-shi
daetan-shi
byeokseong-shi
ch'eongdan-shi
baech'eon-shi
ongjin-shi
kangryeong-shi
yeonan-shi
kangwon-do (kangwon province (half of it is in skorea))
wonsan-shi
munch'eon-shi
ch'eondae-shi
beopdong-shi
anbyeon-shi
kojeo-shi
kosan-shi
changjun-shi
koseong-shi
hoeyang-shi
p'ankyo-shi
keumgang-shi
saep'o-shi
ch'angdo-shi
ich'eon-shi
p'yonggang-shi
kimhwa-shi
anhyeop-shi
p'yeongyang capital city-state
namp'o city-state
kaeseong city-state
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