19-12-2001 21:10									#1
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I decided to enhance the civilization name lists as I found the default too sparse for huge maps – standard for that matter. I really get sick of seeing “new” and 1,2,3 – etc… for city names.

I did Japan first because I happen to know a lot about the country and could do so rather quickly.

I will do some research for the rest of the civilizations as time permits. If folks are interested in helping by doing some of the other civilizations please let me know, as it will save me the time and effort.

My goal is at least 100 city and 10 leader names each.

Last edited by darkangel on 19-12-2001 at 21:25

	19-12-2001 21:28									#2
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Sorry folks, I edited my first post and the link to the file was lost. So hear it is.

This file has all but the final 3 civs. I'll try to get the rest done soon.

Attachment: civnames.zip
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Last edited by darkangel on 24-12-2001 at 14:38

	19-12-2001 22:12									#3
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You could save some time and duplication of effort by checking out Sevorak's mod in the Civ3-Files section (where this thread probably belongs, BTW).

The thread containing the mod is called "More City Names" and was bumped recently, so it shouldn't be hard to find.

	20-12-2001 04:40									#4
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Thanks Ill check it out!

	20-12-2001 12:00									#5
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You might want to look at my mod posted here (city, leader edits and Canada civ)

You may not want the Canada civ, but the rest of the city/leader info in the *.bic file may be of use. I'll gladly assist with the Zulu and Russians, if you like.

	20-12-2001 19:30									#6
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Thanks for the offer! I will check out your files. I have also been in contact with the guy who did another name list. He has about 40 city names for each and a few for the leaders. I will also be incorporating his info as well. We are working together on a mod project now. I would like it if you would be interested in joining us.

	21-12-2001 03:30									#7
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I just finished the Roman and Greek civs. I will put all of them in one zip file for download.

	21-12-2001 03:35									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Purple (where this thread probably belongs, BTW)

You are saying that as though he should have put this thread in there himself. In case you dont know, we cant post directly in the Files forum, we have to post here, and let the mods move it into the files forum themselves.

	21-12-2001 06:46									#9
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darkangel,

Do you have an email I can contact? Let me know what you'd like me to do and I'll give you a hand. Breaking up the civs between a few people should make it easy.

I'd also recommend using scientists and artists in addition to military figures (makes sense when finishing wonders)

	21-12-2001 13:50									#10
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I'm already using scientists and political leaders as well as military. I will message you with my email. Otherwise the link to Vex's board is:

http://renaissanceforums.community....&ClientID=53163

	22-12-2001 03:23									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns You are saying that as though he should have put this thread in there himself. In case you dont know, we cant post directly in the Files forum, we have to post here, and let the mods move it into the files forum themselves.

Thanks for the information, Skanky. Obviously I haven't tried to upload any files.

	22-12-2001 03:29									#12
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Dont worry it did not bother me - I figured it was something like being a virgin!

	24-12-2001 14:20									#13
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I could offer some German city names. I've put 50 in the attachment. These are the German city names. If you need the English ones, please write. It will take some time to translate them and I'm not able to translate them all.

Attachment: germancities.txt
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	24-12-2001 14:37									#14
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All civs are done excpt the following:

Babylon, Zulu, Iroquois

	25-12-2001 03:39									#15
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Here is the Zulu list.

I can do the Iroquois, but not until Boxing Day.

There are many Zulu sites from the high period, but most are cities from the present day areas of South Africa, Botswana and Zimbabwe.

The leaders are all military figures from the Zulu Wars period.

I would like to suggest, dakangel, than we prioritize the city list. I know it's a lot of work, but it would be more accurate.

Thoughts?

Attachment: zulu names.txt
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	25-12-2001 19:48									#16
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Thanks for your help XYZ. I will update the collection ASAP.

	27-12-2001 04:51									#17
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Here is an updated Zulu file.

I recommend changing the name from Zululand to KwaZulu.

cheers.

Attachment: zulu names.txt
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	27-12-2001 04:57									#18
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Here is the Iroquois names file.

A few notes:

I followed my own city name list process of naming tribes rather than cities. The reson for this being that the Iroquois are supposed to represent NA natives as a whole, so they are reflected here. (The Barbarian list may need to be changed accordingly)

The list comes from reliable sources, but there may be some cases where two tribes are really culturally the same, etc. This was impossible to avoid.

Let me know if you have any comments.


BTW - I think these names should be prioritized rather than alphabetized.

Otherwise, we'll have a lot of cities starting with 'A', and we might never see New York, Shanghai or Tokyo being built by their respective civs.

My two lists follow darkangel's format, but I'm pushing for prioritization.

I can do my two files.

Attachment: iroquois names.txt
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Last edited by wyz_sub10 on 27-12-2001 at 05:04

	27-12-2001 17:57									#19
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My lists are alphabetized to prevent redundant names. After all lists are done I want to randomise them. That is why all the capital cities are seperated from the normal cities in the list.

Thanks for your help wyx you will get full credit in the mod. Now only Babylon to do yet. I really want to use cities from the golden age but I cannot find a resource with that many names so I may end up using late age cities.

	28-12-2001 04:59									#20
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Getting 100 golden age cities is difficult because, in some cases, there just were not 100 "cities" in existence. For the native americans and Babylonia peoples, you're dealing with nomadic tribes in many cases.

If we broaden Babylon to include Akkadians, Phoenecians, Summerians, etc., we should be able to get a good number.

I can take that on if you like.

BTW, it's not xyz or wyx...it's Wyz.

	28-12-2001 12:54									#21
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Cool! If you want to do Babylon as well -go for it!

BTW: we we both got your handle wrong!

Thanks wyz!

	31-12-2001 09:21									#22
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Here is the Babylon file (100 cities + 10 leaders).

The cities are very accurate. Most are from the golden period, and those that aren't are from archeological sites in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. (you may want to cross-reference the Persian file for duplication).

Some of the Firaxis cities were two names for the same place.

Akkad, Sumer and Susa are regions, rather than cities, but they included smaller settlements not listed here, so it's not too bad.

A few cities (not many) are from Phoenician and Assyrian kingdoms, but that fits with Firaxis' intention, as I understand it.

Attachment: babylonian names.txt
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	08-01-2002 00:15									#23
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Hey darkangel, what's the status?

	08-01-2002 05:25									#24
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quote: Originally posted by wyz_sub10 Here is an updated Zulu file. I recommend changing the name from Zululand to KwaZulu. cheers.

Great idea, Wyz. I'm tired of being annoyed by "Zululand."

This raises another issue: should each civ be named in its own language? For example, Deutsch instead of German.

	08-01-2002 07:00									#25
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It's a good idea, but Civ3 doesn't handle some alphabet characters very well (I thought I saw some German names screwed up in Civ3, maybe not).

In many cases, I tried to keep the city names in the original format for civs that I did.

I do think you have a point, though.

	09-01-2002 03:31									#26
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If you want some input on Greek City names I am more than happy to lend a hand!

	09-01-2002 23:10									#27
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With the addition of wyz's last update the city lists are done!

Now we must finish the leader lists!!

I have another thread on that topic if anybody wants to hop on it so we can keep all the info together.

By the way I will post the finalised project to a different thread rather then this one as it is rather long. I will post a message to this one letting everybody know the new thread.


Also I'm sorry I have not been more active the past two weeks. But the boards were down and I had much to do work wise.

Anyway, I'm back in the groove!