05-01-2002 08:57									#1
	64 MB of RAM Don't Cut It Get a bigger avatar today!

Up until today when I installed an additional 128 MB of RAM, Civ III was dragging worse than Apolyton. I have a Pentium II system with 64 MB of RAM, an 8 Gig hard drive, blah, blah, blah, all the things listed as a minimum needed to play Civ III. Actually I think 32 MB of RAM may be the listed minimum. Anyway, the game was taking 2-3 minutes between turns in the early game stages and up to 5-10 minutes per turn in the middle ages. Needless to say, I haven't gotten past that point yet. But no longer. I just started a game earlier and the additional RAM make all the difference in the world. The game plays smooth and quickly like it should. Now maybe I can get the hang of this thing.

	05-01-2002 09:12									#2
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Wow thats an ancient computer, you might want to consider making a large upgrade soon while everything is cheap.

	05-01-2002 14:43									#3
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If you have just turned off the music, game would run just fine with 64 MB RAM. I know. At least at standard maps with 8 players. And maybe large maps.

And huge, but only early game.

P.S.
my conf:
333Hmz Celeron 64 MB of RAM, 8GB hdd and Intel graphic.

	05-01-2002 16:41									#4
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I have 64mb it runs ok for me (even on huge), I do have a PIII 450 in there which helps a bit.

	05-01-2002 19:09									#5
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My problem was the program was eating up virtual memory and the hard drive was running almost constantly while the game was playing. And yes, it is an ancient computer at about 4 years old, but for what we use it for it is fine. Except Civ III of course, which the memory upgrade took care of.

	05-01-2002 23:45									#6
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THE KEY IS TO TURN OFF THE MUSIC!!!

Then game will not need swap during a turn (only while waiting a new one or never). Which increases game performane considerably.

Decoding MP3 needs lots of memory. That's probably a reason why game swaped so much for you.

	06-01-2002 02:51									#7
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I don't see your problem, Civ3 works fine on my PII366 with 64MB ram, 6GB HDD, and 4MB S3 Trio graphics, I must agree however that it runs slowly on my P90 with 16Mb ram with a 1GB HDD and a 1MB graphics card, but fine on small worlds.

	06-01-2002 07:20									#8
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On my old computer, P2 350, 64mb of RAM, the game was almost unplayable with the music on. Turning it off definately helps, but when you get towards the later ages....argh!!!

What really helps is getting more RAM. 512mb DDR-RAM, and an Athlon XP 1700+......well, things are a lot better, basically!

	06-01-2002 07:25									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Zanzin On my old computer, P2 350, 64mb of RAM, the game was almost unplayable with the music on. Turning it off definately helps, but when you get towards the later ages....argh!!! What really helps is getting more RAM. 512mb DDR-RAM, and an Athlon XP 1700+......well, things are a lot better, basically!

Of course they are better, but for the time being my machine (see above) is fine, I don't know wassup with yours?

	07-01-2002 08:56									#10
	A REALLY old Computer Full PM-box? Change here!

I have a friend (yes it really is a friend, not me) that has a Pentium ONE, 166 MHz, with 64 meg RAM.

He is currently addicted to Civ2 and is dying to play Civ3, but thinks it will be unbareably slow on his computer. Is it super slow? Has anyone tried it on that old of computer? My guess is that it would probably lock up a lot.

	07-01-2002 09:33									#11
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quote: Originally posted by aebbeka I have a friend (yes it really is a friend, not me) that has a Pentium ONE, 166 MHz, with 64 meg RAM. He is currently addicted to Civ2 and is dying to play Civ3, but thinks it will be unbareably slow on his computer. Is it super slow? Has anyone tried it on that old of computer? My guess is that it would probably lock up a lot.

Yes it is possible, if one overclocks it to about 300mhz, however, I don't give the processor much working life. Civ3 will run normally on such a slow processor, however is very vulnerable to crashes and glitches, and can stuff the whole computer up.

	07-01-2002 19:49									#12
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i have 366 mhz, but its a CELERON and not a pentium II, so the game is really slow and locks up in diplomacy alot. i have 64 Mb ram and all other sys rq.

	07-01-2002 21:56									#13
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Try playing on 32 mb of RAM. Thats' what I have right now.
Want to talk lag?
Also 366 celeron, but I think RAM is the main problem.
It's playable, but I'll be glad to see the game whenever I upgrade RAM.

	07-01-2002 22:14									#14
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If you are having a problem with the slowness of the game then get the "nocd" patch and play it that way. Makes a lot of diff.

	08-01-2002 03:37									#15
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quote: Originally posted by simwiz2 i have 366 mhz, but its a CELERON and not a pentium II, so the game is really slow and locks up in diplomacy alot. i have 64 Mb ram and all other sys rq.

I, too, have a Celeron, but with only 32mb RAM. It's slow, but works. Turns on a large map take a long time, but that's not so bad. In the pauses I've caught up on letter writing and some reading I'd been meaning to do before the Civ3 needle got stuck in my arm.

All told, I'm thinking about buying another 32mb...

	08-01-2002 04:41									#16
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hehe I have:
Pentium ONE 133
32 MB RAM
2GB HDD
6x CD-ROM

But luckily there is the Athlon 800 with 384MB SD-Ram and 30GB HDD that I play Civ3 on
ah did I mention it is equipped with a GF256 ?
And did I mention that this GF has super fast DDR Ram ?

Isnt it great to have such a brand new computer system. Everything runs fine on 800x600x32 *sigh* I like it really.


But on the other hand there are those cool new nForce420 Boards and some cool Athlon XP 1700+ or something like that. *sigh*
Should I stay or should I go?

Should I shut up now?
Okay I will
just after this

ata

	08-01-2002 04:44									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by Navyman If you are having a problem with the slowness of the game then get the "nocd" patch and play it that way. Makes a lot of diff.

I want this NOCD patch. I'm currently using Virtual CDROM 1.0 but that requires having the entire CD in one file on the computer, so at the moment, I have about 1.3GB of Civ3 files on my computer, with a Virtual CDROM in drive M.

	08-01-2002 05:22									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

get it at www.gamecopyworld.com

	08-01-2002 11:11									#19
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by aebbeka get it at www.gamecopyworld.com

Thanks!

	09-01-2002 19:12									#20
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How do you cut the music off.

	09-01-2002 21:19									#21
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quote: Originally posted by kmill25 How do you cut the music off.

Go into Audio Preferences from the pyramid icon in the upper left corner. You can turn music, sounds, etc. on/off and also adjust the volume.

	10-01-2002 00:56									#22
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I have a 1.4 Ghz Athlon with 128M RAM and I don't play on large because in modern age I spend more time waiting between turns than I do playing. I think the memory paging it messing me up. I'm probably going to upgarade my memory to 384. I'll try turning the music off.