08-01-2002 12:32									#1
	Help with Espionage! Full PM-box? Change here!

Hey whats up people! I recently finished my first game of Civ III....then I kept playing it...and playing it....and now its about the year 2300 and I'm thinking maybe I should start a new one

Anyway I have some questions that I need help with....

1) How does Espionage work? I have the Intellegence Agency and embassies with everyone, yet when I click on Espionage all I get is 'Investiage City' or 'Steal Technology' what happened to Propaganda and the like?

2) Does the U.N. not meet after the game offically ends? In the same train of thought....do Spaceships not work after the game ends? I built one and as soon as it was done I couldn't look at it anymore.

3) What exactly is required for a unit to be able to upgrade? Is it merely the resources required and a trade route that makes those resources available? Are there limits to how many units you can upgrade?

	08-01-2002 12:46									#2
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I can only answer 1. definitively...

First before espionage yo u need to plant a spy. You do this NOT by clicking on the button on the RHS of the screen, but by right-clicking yr capital and going to espionage. Here it gives you an option to place a spy, and afterwards you can do all those lovley oh-too-expensive fun things!

	08-01-2002 12:53									#3
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I just tried that....all it says is "We cannot establish any new embassies at this time"

	08-01-2002 13:30									#4
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1) You plant spies by right clicking on the city you built the Intelligence Agency, not your capital.

2) Dunno, never got that far.

3) In order to upgrade, you must have A: the recquired resources for the unit you're trying to upgrade to, B: enough money for the upgrade, and C: a Barracks in the city your unit is in (you can't upgrade in the field, which sucks).

	08-01-2002 13:38									#5
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Thank you! That worked!!!!!

	08-01-2002 17:02									#6
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I shudder everytime I hear of those horrible interface decisions!!!

Not that those little buttons on the side are completely unnoticable they are also limited in functionality.
Espionage things have to be placed at least in this screen.

Whoever designed the UI..... if it was Sid himself he may should consider retiring.

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	08-01-2002 17:40									#7
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Does anyone else find the espionage costs prohibitively expensive? I am playing on Regent and even there the cost for a single action is in the hundreds if not thousands with no guarantee of success.

	08-01-2002 20:29									#8
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1) Espionnage does not work. No way that I call "working" something that require three times my whole treasury and NEVER succeed even when I've all the bonuses imaginable.

2) I'm not sure but I don't think. Anyway, considering how lame the ends are, it's not a loss.

3) Ressource, tech, barrack in the same city.

	09-01-2002 06:46									#9
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You have to be smart with your espionage. If you want to propoganda a city, try to get it to be in civil disorder before you prop them. They'll jump sides pretty easily under civil disorder.

Stealing tech and such, thats another story.... besides it's cheaper to trade for it.

	10-01-2002 13:47									#10
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...well I did think it was kind of cute that the manual says click the espionage tag....but I suppose I could overlook that....now I need to talk to someone about this whole 'corruption' thing....and why its easier to conquer the world than it is to build the Forbidden Palace....I'm starting to have doubts about this version of civ.....