12-01-2002 20:13									#1
	Are mulitple leaders possible? Tired of ads?

Simple question, but it's an important one. Is it possible to have more than one available leader? Undoubtedly, every time I go into Mobilization mode, I'll get a leader a couple of turns later...long before the war is over. You can't get out of mobilization without coming to peace terms, and can't build non-military imps while mobilized for war. (As a sidenote...are any wonders able to be built during mobilization? Leo's Workshop, Sun Tzu's?)

So, invariably, I go through the rest of the war with no available leader, because after building the first army of the game to get my Mil Academy/Heroic Epic, I refuse to build an army with a leader...so, the leader is put in my capital, fortified. I'm left wondering, is it just luck of the draw that I'm not getting a great leader the rest of the war, or the fact that I already have one precludes me from getting a second?

I admit being able to potentially stockpile leaders has a huge window for abuse...but...but...hehe. It sucks having to fortify a leader because of having nothing to use him for at the time, then not getting another until you use him up.

	12-01-2002 20:28									#2
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Ignore me, I got confused between Armies and Leaders. Sorry.

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	12-01-2002 20:30									#3
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As far as I know, only 1 leader can exist at a time. If you use him to build something, or create an army, then another leader may be generated by successful combat. There is also a limit to the amount of armies you can have, I think it's based on the # of cities you own.

	12-01-2002 22:31									#4
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I think you can only have 1 leader at a time. It is possible to have armies and get a leader.

I'm playing with the Aztecs right now. They are militaristic and that produces many many leaders it seems, I've about 5 or 6 this game so far. If I'm not going to be doing very much warnig or or I'm getting close to wanting to build a wonder I'll keep the leader for that. Otherwise I'll build an army expecting to get a new leader soon.

	12-01-2002 22:38									#5
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I have yet to get a leader. I'm playing with the Zulu and I had an Impi go on a barbarian killing spree so I could generate a leader. I've gotten NOTHING!!! This sucks. He's been elite FOREVER! Somebody give me a clue here.

	12-01-2002 22:50									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Argos65987 As far as I know, only 1 leader can exist at a time.

I think I have seen several enemy armies at a time, but maybe they had built the relevant minor wonder so they could build up leaderless armies...

	12-01-2002 23:03									#7
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quote: I think I have seen several enemy armies at a time, but maybe they had built the relevant minor wonder so they could build up leaderless armies...

That's correct, once a leader is turned into an army, it doesn't count as a leader. You can have an army (created by converting a leader) for every so many cities.

	12-01-2002 23:43									#8
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quote: Originally posted by kmill25 I have yet to get a leader. I'm playing with the Zulu and I had an Impi go on a barbarian killing spree so I could generate a leader. I've gotten NOTHING!!! This sucks. He's been elite FOREVER! Somebody give me a clue here.

Leaders can't be generated by combat against barbarians. Sorry to break it to you, but you'll have to do it the hard way - actually going to war with the AI

Asmodean

	13-01-2002 00:05									#9
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As far as I know, it is not possible to get multiple leaders. This is a real nuisance seeing as though I would stockpile them too.

You can't get leaders from barbarians unless you modify the rules.

	13-01-2002 00:23									#10
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Asmodean,

Thanks. That'll really help me.

BEGIN THE ZULU WARS!!!!!!!

	13-01-2002 00:26									#11
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By the way, I was wondering, I sometimes get leaders off conscript units, is this normal?!?!

	13-01-2002 01:20									#12
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Conscripted units gain experience like normal units, and are thus eligible to become leaders.

	13-01-2002 03:55									#13
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But only once they've hit elite level, of course.