13-01-2002 22:29									#31
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Striker, all of it? I doubt it...

To begin with, you can say "we eat barbecue" but an asado is far from your heathen roasting over a live fire. Secondly, do you eat cow's intestines? Kidneys? The white tissue around the heart, lungs and throat? Sausage and black pudding I imagine yes.

Another thing, do you even recognise yerba mate? Dulce de leche? Empanadas? Locro? Carbonada (which has nothing to do with carbonara)?

I doubt it.

	14-01-2002 00:22									#32
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So what, you like New York style pizza? It's all greasy and thin... I like Chicago Style, it's like three times as thick as a normal pizza with TONS of stuff on it.

On a wierd note, there are three Italian restaurants in my town all owned by first-generation Italian immigrants... At one, he even grows his own vegeables and makes his own sausage

Antonio's, Columbos, Da Vinci's, how I miss thee...

Then we have one of the best Tex-Mex places around, Hacienda. Mmmmm, free chips, made right there. Get a Wet Burrito, a side of ranch (also homemade, for the chips) and you're set. A Margarita if you're old enough.

Anybody else been to one of the Japanese retaurants where they cook the food right in front of you? Ahhh, Honi Yori's, and the Onion Volcano(e?).

	14-01-2002 00:30									#33
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quote: Originally posted by CB2034 Grits, Cornbread, CollardGreens, Fried Green Tomatoes, SweetPotato Surprise, BrunswickStew,Hash, PeachPie, Barbeque Yummy!! (except for grits they suck)

Grits are good if prepared properly.

My mom use to make them, I admit I always use butter and often use cheese.

Jon Miller

	14-01-2002 00:31									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Mark L Fattening. I stayed in the US for two months, and in that time I gained 12 pounds. Three months after I was back my weight was back to "normal".

Are you sure that this is not just a result of being in a place where the food actually tastes good for once?

Jon Miller

	14-01-2002 00:38									#35
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Bah! We invented pizza. Before us, the Italians just had some sauce on a bread crust.

	14-01-2002 00:57									#36
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One thing I did notice about Europe is that their portions are a lot smaller than what you would get in the US. You pay about the same for food but it seems like they don't give you the sometimes massive portions that US restaurants give you. Most of the times I can just barely finish a dinner at a restaurant inn the US but in Europe I had no problems finishing.

I have to say that the number of Indian, French, and Italien restaurants found in England, I and pretty much the rest of England, agrees that English food is awful. I can't really comment on breakfast since I'm not a big breakfast guy but lunch and dinner in England is best spent in an Indian restaurant. English food is full of odd puddings, weird organs, and plent of steamed vegetable.

American food is a mixture of regional food. Unfortunately much of this regional food is dominated by evil globalized junk food. A lot of American food is based on red meat and while a little red meat is fine, Americans seem to overdose a little on it as evidenced by all the fat in AMerica. I usually don't find a lot of red meat in Europe except in England which also has a major overweight problem.

	14-01-2002 02:22									#37
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Wannabe Eurocom,

Every culture eats animal organs. You can't claim those as Argentine.



Apparently Argentine food is so bad that all the restaurants have to serve it with either Italian or Spanish food to make up for the lack of options!

Actually I like the spices you guys put on your meats, they are pretty tasty.

Here's a sample menu, with some of the dishes you mentioned, and yes I have tried them and yes they were actually very good.

http://www.cafesevilla.com/Pages/dt/resdtfr.html

	14-01-2002 06:22									#38
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quote: american food is hamburgers. Hamburgers are sh!t. Thus american food is sh!t.

Hamburgers ****?!! What are you, devoid of any taste at all! Oh, right! You are Greek!

quote: Well, Americans certainly managed to butcher the concept of a pizza and export it all over the world. If people think a pizza should look like the stuff they sell at Domino's -they're sadly mistaken-

Um... most Americans don't think a pizza should look like Domino's crap. The best pizza in the world is the greasy New York/New Jersey pizzaria pizza... yummy! Deep dish pizza is utter crap.

Of course American cuisine is the best. Southern fried chicken and Texas chili, not to mention Louisiana Cajun food, is amazingly good!

	14-01-2002 06:48									#39
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There is a facinating history to this sort of thing, the Rise and Fall of national cuisines...

For example, during the 30s in Sweden there was a very self-conscious attempt to revive the traditional Swedish smorgasbourg (which was not originally just a buffet).

In Russia, Communism essentially ended the native 'haut Cusine' that had grown up under the Romanovs. Only a variety of Easter delicacies survive, plus a few peasant foods.

In the German countries the old high cuisine has virtually disappeared due to changes in society and the work day. The various 'mittel' meals (extra lunches) dissappeance, the end of the Hapsburgs, and the fact that women no longer stayed home cooking for 6-8 hours meant an end to many traditional meals.

America as Ted recognized has several food traditions: 1) regional foods 2) American versions: chop suey, hamburger, pizza (Chicago and New York style pizzas evolved from 19th century) 3) the tiny native American high cusine, largely the product of fabulously wealthy New Yorkers during the turn of the century: Baked Alaska, Oysters Rockefeller, etc.

Italian cusine is regional and interesting because the good stuff, and the native stuff, are all peasant dishes intended to stretch resources...

Compare that to Scandinavia were the peasant foods are awful and revolting (Head Cheese?)

English cusine is also very split along class lines historically.

Interesting Fact: Henry VIII and his male court lived almost exclusively on Beer and Beef (he died at 400 lbs). Contrary to popular opinion, the 16th century peasant ate a much, much more healthy diet than the aristocracy and this can be confirmed. Peasants kept their teeth, while almost all aristocrats lost theirs.

	14-01-2002 06:52									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Wannabe Eurocom, Every culture eats animal organs. You can't claim those as Argentine.

Ah ah ah! It;s the preparation that counts.

In any case, that's a Spanish restaurant, I couldn't see anything of what I mentioned except a couple of things "a la Parrilla"

	14-01-2002 07:43									#41
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This week I am paying homage to my evil Eurocom ancestors. I try and cook large batch of food on the weekends so I can eat it during the week, in addition to other meals. On the menu:

1) Clam chowder (British)
2) French bread (French)
3) Apple Pie (Dutch)

	14-01-2002 07:55									#42
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Oh yeah:

4) Chocolate chip cookies

Not which Eurocoms can lay claim to that one.

	14-01-2002 08:16									#43
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I'd kill for some real butter. You can't buy anything over here except sweet cream butter. Also the honey tastes funny. The chocolate isn't as good either. Nor is the bread, too artificial. As a generalisation I would say that american food is too processed.

I definately like the mexican influence here.
Thanksgiving is the greatest holiday ever. Pumpkin pie and Pecan pie are excellent and i'd never had them before.

Peanut butter seems to be in everything.

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	14-01-2002 09:10									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo I'd kill for some real butter. You can't buy anything over here except sweet cream butter. Also the honey tastes funny. The chocolate isn't as good either. Nor is the bread, too artificial. As a generalisation I would say that american food is too processed.

Missing fresh Australian food?

I've heard Americans get huge helpings of food. Australians going to the states are always commenting about that.

Believe it or not, many Australians recommend asking for children's size servings when in the states.

	14-01-2002 09:15									#46
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Yeah we are fat slobs, I'll definatley agree there. And our portions are gigantic.

I just had:

HUGE bowl of clam chowder
loaf of french bread
two slices of apple pie
2 glasses of milk
lots of water

Oh my God Eurocoms this pie is TO DIE FOR. rgasmsmilie:

FEEL THE POWER OF TED STRIKER'S APPLE PIE MUTHUR****ERS!!!

	14-01-2002 09:21									#47
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quote: How are you Evan? Convert to christianity yet? Hiya EvC. What's your sexual orientation this time?

I shall answer these and many more question in a thread I am going to start tommorow.

For Dinner I had some Pork Roast with Corn and Mashed Potatoes and Gravy. Fine eaten! You Euro's are really missing out...

	14-01-2002 09:23									#48
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Make that 4 glasses of milk.

*BELCH*

That sounds very tasty and filling EVC.

What did the CIA agents outside your house have?

	14-01-2002 09:29									#49
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Well, I've been on two vacations to Europe, and on the first one I gained a bunch of weight, as a young kid. I lost some of it when I got back home. The second time I lost ten pounds. However, I don't think this was at all dependent on portions. It was all based on level of activity. On my first trip to Europe I did nothing but be driven around in a car and do some walking. The only real excercise I did was not so coincidentally the only place where I didn't gain weight, Bad Dreicherchen. On my second trip, eight weeks in Finland,I was very active, going swimming, walking, and biking almost every day. I felt great. I also noticed that the Finns are very QUICK eaters. I'm usually the first to finish over here but man, I just couldn't beat 'em!

Portions? I don't think they're that much different, but then again, I live in the Northeast, which might have less sizable portions than the South.

As far as America's reputation as an obese nation, some of that reputation is deserving, but not all of it. There are plenty of healthy people over here, me included.

Myth: There is no such thing as an Italian deep-dish pizza.

Not true! When my family was staying with our relatives in Italy, the mother of the house cooked this incredible thick, THICK pizza! Perhaps it isn't as well known, but they exist. . .

Best American dish? New England clam/fish chowder.

	14-01-2002 09:33									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo I'd kill for some real butter. You can't buy anything over here except sweet cream butter. Also the honey tastes funny. The chocolate isn't as good either. Nor is the bread, too artificial. As a generalisation I would say that american food is too processed. I definately like the mexican influence here. Thanksgiving is the greatest holiday ever. Pumpkin pie and Pecan pie are excellent and i'd never had them before. Peanut butter seems to be in everything.

You are not in the real world if you are in Breckenridge Makeo. That's as far from normal American cuisine as France is LOL. Real butter is everywhere, I bet I could walk in any grocery and find 10 different brands. If your eating Mexican in America its not really Mexican, just American crap with some hot sauce
What are you eating with peanut butter in it? Honey, do people still eat real honey?
I do agree American food is way to processed and artificial. Americans want fast and ready to eat, no wonder we are such fat pigs!!

	14-01-2002 09:34									#51
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Stop talking about food...I had dinner yet you're making me hungry!!

I would kill for a good Indian right now. And some curry too.

Mmmmm. Lamb vindaloo served on top of pilau rice. Somosas served with spicy lime pickle and mango chutney. Tandoori chicken kebabs wrapped in warm naan bread. Pappadoms, enough to crush an elephants back!

(For dinner, I had ribs marinated in bbq sauce that had been spiked with soy sauce and other chinese spices to give it an asian slant. Along side, I had steamed baby bok cho and a baked potato with sour cream, chives, and bacon bits. My sister, who is far more strongly influenced by her American/Canadian surroundings than I am, literally drowned the potatos in sour cream.)

	14-01-2002 09:41									#52
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"For Dinner I had some Pork Roast with Corn and Mashed Potatoes and Gravy. Fine eaten! You Euro's are really missing out..."

Jesus Christ! For dinner tonight I had roast pork with corn and baked red potatoes!

Of course, mine was better cause my mom was cooking.

Jesum crow, you foreigners have never even had "Milky Chicken" have you? Then again, most Americans haven't either!

p.s. EvC I'll hold my breath to see what the latest chapter of your life is like.

	14-01-2002 10:13									#53
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I couldn't eat food in that quantity Striker.

Typical for me on a work day is:

A cup of tea on waking.

Bacon and egg muffin or sausage roll when I get to work.

Morning coffee around 10am

No lunch until after 2pm when they discount the food Usually sandwiches and OJ, or that sort of thing.

Afternoon coffee around 3pm

Sometimes no dinner, just snacks of an evening (toast, whatever). If dinner, one course.

And I'm still a bit overweight. Must be the beer

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	14-01-2002 18:33									#54
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If you go to NE Jawharps house, however, prepare to eat macaroni and cheese. . .

	14-01-2002 18:48									#55
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"Yeah we are fat slobs, I'll definatley agree there. And our portions are gigantic."

Bah. The Americoms visiting here are usually pretty impressed with our food. And even more by us still lacking behind you a bit in obesity - from our cuisine's calory content, we should have overtaken you with the first postwar Fresswelle.

"Oh my God Eurocoms this pie is TO DIE FOR."

Death by apple pie ? Interesting concept. I prefer Apfelstrudel, btw... Ah, Strudel... Guglhupf....

	14-01-2002 18:55									#56
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When I think about american food, this comes to my mind:

I don't think it is very "fatty" or otherwise high-calorized. The fact that americans are regarded as size XXL comes from the lack of excersize. A stereotype that is.

Foods: Pizza, Burgers, Tex-Mex, Turkey, Apple Pie, Fresh fruit, one pound steaks. Beef, pork and chiken in every imaginable way... :yummy: and none of the bread of breads: rye bread, which is a shame. How on earth can one live without such a delicacy, yet nutritious and good for you in every possible way. Rye bread is the ultimate choise for healthy eating.. Rye bread RLZ!

Drinks: bad coffee, worse beer, great wines

	14-01-2002 21:16									#57
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There are different types of rye bread. Depends on if you mean the tough as rock, hard and dark rye bread or the tasty, nutritious, seeded light rye bread.

	14-01-2002 21:44									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Make that 4 glasses of milk. *BELCH*

Damn you're a pig!

	14-01-2002 23:58									#59
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quote: Best American dish? New England clam/fish chowder.

Ewww... Manhatten clam chowder is MUCH better!

quote: I would kill for a good Indian right now.

So would India .

quote: Of course, mine was better cause my mom was cooking.

But he had Mashed Potatoes and Gravy, so he wins .

	15-01-2002 00:05									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Evan von Christoph For Dinner I had some Pork Roast with Corn and Mashed Potatoes and Gravy. Fine eaten! You Euro's are really missing out...

Missing out? We're not in Africa!! That would be a perfectly normal meal here too.
For all the diversity of american food, in all its fattiness, it is really no more special than that of any nation, and debatably less so because of its shared cultural heritage with the rest of the world.