14-01-2002 05:38									#1
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-massive waiting time between turns
-fact that the rivals are cheating and are much better than you
-the game lies to you
-the annoying barbarians that know exactly where to go
-the annoying barbariands that horde your brand new towns

everything else rules!!!:

	14-01-2002 06:54									#2
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I guess we can call you a "fanboy"?

	14-01-2002 07:51									#3
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Everything else rules?


Useless colonies, cavalry too strong, phalanx beeting tanks, bombarding useless, no stacking, all what is flying useless, warrior destroying improvements better than a bomber, spying useless even if it is common in world, a poor editor, retrograded tech tree and retrograded government system.

	14-01-2002 07:56									#4
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It's better than anything I could program, and for forty bucks, it's provided ample amusement for my gaming dollar. Of course it's not perfect, and it won't make everyone happy, but all-in-all, it's not bad.

	14-01-2002 08:02									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna Everything else rules? Useless colonies, cavalry too strong, phalanx beeting tanks, bombarding useless, no stacking, all what is flying useless, warrior destroying improvements better than a bomber, spying useless even if it is common in world, a poor editor, retrograded tech tree and retrograded government system.

That would all be your opinion based on how you rate things. I personally think your very wrong and that your opinion is squat(my opinion). Your a very negative person! You ever see Shrek? Go watch Shrek, its happy, not negative.

Negative people are always so sad, so stop being negative and just smile and nod. Civ3 is one of the best computer games I own and I leave it at that, instead of nitpicking for things to whine about on forums.

P.S. Computer speed really can change waiting time, later in the game on my 1.4 ghz athlon it only takes about 20 seconds on a large map with 16 civs for the comp to think!

	14-01-2002 08:44									#6
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Everyone has an opinion. Everyone should be respectful to everyone else.
I smile and nod happily as I express my opinion that Civ3 is not as good as I expected.

Hobbits should not interfer in the affairs of wizards, for they are quick to anger and just might burn the hair off your weeny feet.

	15-01-2002 02:52									#7
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I might be worried if I had angered a wizard, but not one of you pathetic big people! I don't think any game could live up to the expectations some of you people had for Civ3.

The only problem I know if in Civ3 that isn't based on opinion and gameplay is that the computer constantly walks through your territory to wherever it wants to go while refusing to leave it says it will leave soon until its where it wants to be.

	15-01-2002 03:21									#8
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Just out of curiosity, why would someone who doesn't like Civ3 spend their whole day on a Civ3 forum?

I mean, I don't really like cricket, but I don't spend my whole day on the cricket forum blasting them for their stupid game design. I would rather spend my time playing Civ3, which I do like, or making a snowman.

	15-01-2002 04:57									#9
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Me, I, uh, prefer wrestling giant snow beetles than wasting time in the forum. Say a few comments, say what you need and find the exit. Life begins after CIV III, oh and by the way with the plethora of problems that do plague the game, it is my hope that it will be polished in an expansion (yes, yes I know). But darnit, it's CIV III and it is growing on me. I am enjoying it... when, I'm not wrestling giant snow beetles.

	15-01-2002 10:09									#10
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quote: Originally posted by TheHobbit That would all be your opinion based on how you rate things. I personally think your very wrong and that your opinion is squat(my opinion). Your a very negative person! You ever see Shrek? Go watch Shrek, its happy, not negative. Negative people are always so sad, so stop being negative and just smile and nod. Civ3 is one of the best computer games I own and I leave it at that, instead of nitpicking for things to whine about on forums. P.S. Computer speed really can change waiting time, later in the game on my 1.4 ghz athlon it only takes about 20 seconds on a large map with 16 civs for the comp to think!

I'm a negative person? Assumption based on about nothing. Only on "u say that civ III isn't what it should". So every person thinking that Civ III isn't what it should is a "negative person"?... Give arguments or what you say is without any sense. You didn't ave any argument against my previous thread, but I'll be happy to read them

	15-01-2002 12:34									#11
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lack of MP

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quote: Originally posted by Trifna phalanx beeting tanks,

Could you please post a savegame file with phalanx beating a tank?

	15-01-2002 13:27									#13
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quote: Originally posted by quicksilver417 -massive waiting time between turns -fact that the rivals are cheating and are much better than you -the game lies to you -the annoying barbarians that know exactly where to go -the annoying barbariands that horde your brand new towns everything else rules!!!:

Hey, I like the Barbarians, I always set mine to Raging. I'm sure my Scouts aren't to happy about that, but to bad. At least they never really destroy your city, unlike previous versions.

	15-01-2002 13:30									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Zachriel Just out of curiosity, why would someone who doesn't like Civ3 spend their whole day on a Civ3 forum? I mean, I don't really like cricket, but I don't spend my whole day on the cricket forum blasting them for their stupid game design. I would rather spend my time playing Civ3, which I do like, or making a snowman.

I've been wondering the same thing myself.

	15-01-2002 13:31									#15
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard lack of MP

Civ II didn't have MP when it first came out either. Patience is a virtue after all.

	15-01-2002 16:02									#16
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quote: Patience is a virtue after all.

But there's a fatal fallacy in that assertion.

	15-01-2002 16:39									#17
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quote: Originally posted by LaRusso Could you please post a savegame file with phalanx beating a tank?

Ahhh, but it's so much more fun for us to make outrageous statements about my army of 5 elite modern armor fortified on a mountain being wiped out by a conscript warrior.

but when you ask us to back these statements up? that's another story.

	15-01-2002 18:04									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Zachriel Just out of curiosity, why would someone who doesn't like Civ3 spend their whole day on a Civ3 forum? I mean, I don't really like cricket, but I don't spend my whole day on the cricket forum blasting them for their stupid game design. I would rather spend my time playing Civ3, which I do like, or making a snowman.

I wish to apologize to all cricket lovers worldwide. I didn't mean to say their game was stupid, or even silly. What I really meant to say was that is wasn't "my cup of tea."

Thank you.

	15-01-2002 18:16									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Zachriel I wish to apologize to all cricket lovers worldwide. I didn't mean to say their game was stupid, or even silly. What I really meant to say was that is wasn't "my cup of tea." Thank you.

Odd. Usage of the phrase "my cup of tea" is usually a good indicator of whether or not the person in question is a cricket lover or not.

	15-01-2002 19:12									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Father Beast Ahhh, but it's so much more fun for us to make outrageous statements about my army of 5 elite modern armor fortified on a mountain being wiped out by a conscript warrior. but when you ask us to back these statements up? that's another story.

LOL

oh yes, i remember my elite army of modern armor being wiped out by a settler. too bad i did not save that one.

	15-01-2002 19:18									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Libertarian But there's a fatal fallacy in that assertion.

What is the fallacy? Please explain what is wrong with patience or why patience is not a virtue.

	15-01-2002 19:26									#22
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quote: Originally posted by ****gyRA What is the fallacy? Please explain what is wrong with patience or why patience is not a virtue.

It is a particular kind of fallacy. You can understand why patience might not be a virtue once you've been given the necessary key element.

	15-01-2002 20:08									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Libertarian It is a particular kind of fallacy. You can understand why patience might not be a virtue once you've been given the necessary key element.

Oh, I see! It's a secret!


It sure seems to me that your answers are more vague than Firaxis.

But of course since nobody else is as smart as you (except Yin) how could we understand?

	15-01-2002 20:16									#24
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quote: But of course since nobody else is as smart as you (except Yin) how could we understand?

But you do understand. You identified the key element yourself.

	15-01-2002 20:27									#25
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Thanks, you are always a man of reason.

	15-01-2002 21:12									#26
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quote: Originally posted by ****gyRA Thanks, you are always a man of reason.

[spelling it out]If something must be done, then patience is not a virtue.[/spelling it out]

evidence #1 - patience will never educate the ignorant or willfully contrite, as you so aptly pointed out.

	15-01-2002 21:21									#27
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quote: Originally posted by jackshot [spelling it out]If something must be done, then patience is not a virtue.[/spelling it out] evidence #1 - patience will never educate the ignorant or willfully contrite, as you so aptly pointed out.

Thanks jackshot! But how can we educate you guys?

	15-01-2002 21:27									#28
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quote: Originally posted by ****gyRA Thanks jackshit! But how can we educate you guys?

See, jackshit is cool, but ****gy is censured. Learn something everyday.

	15-01-2002 21:30									#29
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quote: Originally posted by ****gyRA Thanks jackshot! But how can we educate you guys?

(edited for spelling of Mr. Shot's name)

	15-01-2002 21:36									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Willem Civ II didn't have MP when it first came out either.

why is that relevant to civ3 MP? just because the initial release of civ2 didn't have MP, does that mean that civ3 shouldn't have MP too?



oh yeah, civ3 also sucks due to the lack of scenario support