14-01-2002 20:50									#1
	Strategic resource changing? Enter the AD-FREE zone

I've been experimenting with getting a scientific victory, but in 4 days of trying I haven't once been able to GET to that stage . Every time its been because a vital resource or four was simply not on the map and unavailable from other civilizations.

I've left it set to Chieftan (easiest) and even played games with NO other civs and populated every continent. Most often there is no coal anywhere in the world, but some of the time I can build the spaceship as far as fuel cells. I have NEVER seen uranium, with or without other civs in the game .

Is there a way I can increase the amount of strategic resources without having to use the editor and manually add them? Not as much fun to play when you know the world map and resource locations before you start

	14-01-2002 20:52									#2
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No.

	14-01-2002 21:51									#3
	Re: Strategic resource changing? Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

quote: Originally posted by Ghidera I've been experimenting with getting a scientific victory, but in 4 days of trying I haven't once been able to GET to that stage . Every time its been because a vital resource or four was simply not on the map and unavailable from other civilizations. I've left it set to Chieftan (easiest) and even played games with NO other civs and populated every continent. Most often there is no coal anywhere in the world, but some of the time I can build the spaceship as far as fuel cells. I have NEVER seen uranium, with or without other civs in the game . Is there a way I can increase the amount of strategic resources without having to use the editor and manually add them? Not as much fun to play when you know the world map and resource locations before you start

There is ALWAYS all the ressources on the map.
It's just that they are hard to spot.

	15-01-2002 20:27									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Akka le Vil There is ALWAYS all the ressources on the map. It's just that they are hard to spot.

Well, I only had two of the three continents, I guess all the uranium was on the third continent.

I did figure out how to change the resources without placing them manually. In the editor, change the resource rules. Increase the appearance ratio from its default to 300. Every civ will get every resource on thier map almost guarenteed.

	15-01-2002 20:50									#5
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Bah I think Resources are one of the things that make MAJOR fun!!!!

If you dont have it you'll have to go for war or trade!

There will ALWAYS be a resource somewhere.

Pressing Ctrl+Shift+M allows you to view the map without tile improvement or cities. It is a lot easier to spot resources this way.

If you get a resource guaranteed then the game is boring IMHO. It gives some exciting thrill when you dont know if you will have oil or not.

ata

	15-01-2002 23:28									#6
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I agree with Atahualpa - not having everything adds a cool element to the game. You need to go get it! Either crush some neighbors or pay dearly on the trading table. It's frustrating, but I think it is one of the good additions to the game.

	16-01-2002 04:28									#7
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definitely!

having to wage war or pay through the nose to trade or send that ship halfway around the world and colonize that itsy bitsy piece of isolated rock plus build a harbour with 99% corruption is a pain but makes it more fun!

I know I complain alot and keep making all kinds of suggestions (some realistic, some zany), but Firaxis did do a great job in adding in resources and culture.
They could have done better, but as it is, it's still much more fun than otherwise...

still hate the UU system, but at least it's a checkable option!

	16-01-2002 05:08									#8
	Re: Strategic resource changing? Suffering from ads?

quote: Originally posted by Ghidera I've been experimenting with getting a scientific victory, but in 4 days of trying I haven't once been able to GET to that stage . Every time its been because a vital resource or four was simply not on the map and unavailable from other civilizations. I've left it set to Chieftan (easiest) and even played games with NO other civs and populated every continent. Most often there is no coal anywhere in the world, but some of the time I can build the spaceship as far as fuel cells. I have NEVER seen uranium, with or without other civs in the game . Is there a way I can increase the amount of strategic resources without having to use the editor and manually add them? Not as much fun to play when you know the world map and resource locations before you start

You can increase the odds of a resource appearing in the Editor, but not by a great deal. For instance, Coal now has what's called an "Appearance Ratio" of 120. The maximum is 300. You'll find the setting in the Editor under "Natural Resources".