15-01-2002 02:06									#1
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Does anyone know whether you can give away, say, a sea former at start to an ordinary SMAC land faction (that is no SMAX Pirates). And if you can, what happens? Do you start immediatelly next to it (ie. on the coast)? Or do you have to explore until you eventually discover it?

	17-01-2002 17:43									#2
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The 90% of the times when you land you do it next to the sea.
So, adding UNIT,5 (Sea Former) to your faction you begin with a sea former.
You must remember that you can't use "Flexible Starting Location" because the base works as an ocean square for sea units, so no base=no ocean=no sea former.
There is a 10% of possibility that your base is in the hinterland.
In this case... you cannot use your former! (but you have it!)
To use it you must transform your base in a costal base (maybe using some planetbusters... )
I hope I would be helpful.

-V

Last edited by Vultur on 05-02-2002 at 00:19

	17-01-2002 23:32									#3
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Stange Thanx a lot! At least you can disband the former or something!

	31-01-2002 16:52									#4
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We discoverd the wheel ages ago...How hard can it be to transform a Sea Former to the shore?

	01-02-2002 01:12									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Shai-Hulud How hard can it be to transform a Sea Former to the shore?

Yes, with an other sea former... if the shore is near your base.
Remember that to terrafform down the sea you spend 16*(2^D) credits where D is the distance in square from your nearest base and take at least 8 turn each square (with the WP and superformer ability)
In a normal mid game your HQ can produce a PB in 10-12 turns...
and a tectonic missile in 8-10 turns (just to put the things in order )

	01-02-2002 17:10									#6
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quote: Remember that to terrafform down the sea you spend 16*(2^D) credits where D is the distance in square from your nearest base and take at least 8 turn each square (with the WP and superformer ability)

Yes, exactly. Why can't they just carry those damn things there!? But some drones to it.

	02-02-2002 02:10									#7
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There you go, another thing for SMAC 2 - land transport!!!

	02-02-2002 02:43									#8
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SMAC has land transport - not sure if you can tranport a foil or cruiser though.

	02-02-2002 19:34									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Yxklyx SMAC has land transport - not sure if you can tranport a foil or cruiser though.

Exactly.
You cannot transport sea unit in any way. It is possible to land tranport an aircraft , but what use can have? Moving missile launch base? (with a movement of 12 square/turn is very useful)

-V

PS
Planetbusting the shore is joke , don't take the thing seriously!!!

	03-02-2002 17:10									#10
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Imagine this combination:

Unit 1: Transport, No Armour, Hovertank/Speeder --> 0-1-2/3
Units 2...: Weapon/armour/chassis of choice and amphibious ability --> ?-?-? Amphibious

Would this allow you to move the units into the land transport and then you use them to attack from the transport! What would happen if the transport was destroyed though...

	03-02-2002 23:17									#11
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Amphibious sea formers terraforming from inside of a land based transport?