15-01-2002 21:43									#1
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Anyone try out the new WW2 Scenario by Curt Sibling for ToT?

	20-01-2002 06:22									#2
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I'll try it.

	04-02-2002 02:31									#3
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i try the 2.1 version ... big, big job !
very good WW2 scenario

	04-02-2002 05:37									#4
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Where?

	04-02-2002 11:42									#5
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Civfanatics, scenario dl section here

	04-02-2002 14:17									#6
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Thanks. I've just had a quick look. It's visually quite appealing. He's taken some of the many excellent Alex/Nemo units available and combined them with some great looking terrain. It has a good oversize world map, though like most, the Pacific is far too narrow.

But...it's a bit sloppy. I found Japanese marines in the China Sea with no ships. It's also not very historically accurate. India is independent- apparently part of the same nation as China. The British control all of Libya except Tobruk and their navy is mostly in the far east, except for a powerful squadron in Montreal. This is in 1940. The map is largely hidden, something I can't understand in the middle of the twentieth century. Events are basic and make no attempt to use ToTs' events capability.

Still, it shows quite a bit of effort and with some work could be an outstanding scenario, especially if made with PBEM in mind. I think I'll wait till then.

	04-02-2002 14:55									#7
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yes i've been also surprised by these "changements" (india, north africa, france -marseille not french ?) but i think it has been done to organize a best resistance of the china against the japanese, simulate the "gouvernement de Vichy" (marseille) and the poor situation of north-african italian forces in 1940

that also why USA don't have the techs to build any aircraft in 1940 in order to limited US military power before 1941

	14-02-2002 03:57									#8
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I followed the directions in the read me file and I got an error message telling me that the scenario is done up in an obsolete format.

The WW2 scenario by Curt is for ToT right?

	14-02-2002 04:11									#9
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Ya gotta install the patch! (download from Cradle of Civ)

	14-02-2002 05:07									#10
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What patch???

	14-02-2002 06:08									#11
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This one. http://coc.apolyton.net/utilities/index.shtml

	14-02-2002 08:07									#12
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Thanks! I got it! The game plays! Nice...but I am still having the same problem I mentioned below in another thread...I can see the awesome WW2 graphics but I go to move them and I get the generic default ones like the Warrior, or the Fantic or the original boats etc...

And Again I have followed the directions to the letter...

	18-02-2002 01:21									#13
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I played it as well, and thought it was one of the better ToT scenarios.

	20-02-2002 03:06									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Karagin Thanks! I got it! The game plays! Nice...but I am still having the same problem I mentioned below in another thread...I can see the awesome WW2 graphics but I go to move them and I get the generic default ones like the Warrior, or the Fantic or the original boats etc... And Again I have followed the directions to the letter...

The solution is to download the latest version of this scenario. Then follow the directions in the readme. The one thing that is very important is to move all the sprites in the "standard game" directory somewhere else. This will solve your problem.

I asked and asked and asked for what this problem was the first day this scenario was available. I was ignored but finally my problem was solved when the new version of the scenario came out. I even emailed Curt but never never got a reply. So I hope this helps you because I WAS LEFT OUT TO DRY. I know how rude it is when someone doesn't reply to your emails.

	21-02-2002 01:51									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich The solution is to download the latest version of this scenario. Then follow the directions in the readme. The one thing that is very important is to move all the sprites in the "standard game" directory somewhere else. This will solve your problem. I asked and asked and asked for what this problem was the first day this scenario was available. I was ignored but finally my problem was solved when the new version of the scenario came out. I even emailed Curt but never never got a reply. So I hope this helps you because I WAS LEFT OUT TO DRY. I know how rude it is when someone doesn't reply to your emails.

I followed the directions in the read me file and I am still getting the older icons.

Heck, I moved the SPRITE files out of the TOT file and on to my second hard drive and I renamed them and the game IS STILL giving me the older icons when ever I move a unit.

I have the current version, I made sure of that before downloading...I have this same problem with the older Icons poping up in the Original Game in TOT instead of the three units I have put there and yes the Sprites are gone...

	22-02-2002 00:20									#16
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Hmmm......

That's strange. Moving the sprites should have worked.

Just curious, do you get any error messages when starting the scenario? That may have something to do with your problem.

Make sure all the sprites from the directory have been removed. There are a lot of them and it is possible you may have missed one. Also make sure you have downloaded the latest patch for ToT as well as the "no limits" mod. You can find these at civfanatics.com

	22-02-2002 00:23									#17
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If I remember correctly there is one more file you need to remove. Removing only sprites are not enough. It is called something like static..
Sorry not being able to help more. I deleted all sprites from my ToT already in 1999 and haven't reinstalled them since. Hard to remember now what exactly I did then...

If anybody else don't help you out I'll go home, look the ToT and tell you tomorrow.

Last edited by Marko on 22-02-2002 at 00:38

	22-02-2002 01:00									#18
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Marko,

I think you're right about that other file. If I remember correctly it also has a .spr file extension just like the other sprite files do.

	22-02-2002 01:09									#19
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Your scenario folder needs to be in the Test of Time directory. Move it there and your sprite problem will go away.

	22-02-2002 04:28									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich Marko, I think you're right about that other file. If I remember correctly it also has a .spr file extension just like the other sprite files do.

Yes.

It's called Static.spr. There's a copy of it in the Original, Sci-fi and Fantsy folders. It needs to be renamed/moved along with the other Unit.spr files.

	22-02-2002 16:19									#21
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possible solution
see rules.txt
part (G) General Flags override .SPR file

; Advanced unit fields
; A) 'tribe color may build' mask: 0 - can't; 1 - can
; B) 'not allowed on map' mask: 1 - not allowed on map
; C) minimum bribe amount: n - minimum bribe; 0 - don't care; -1 - can't bribe
; D) 'build transport site' mask: 1: can; 0: can't for each site type (reverse programmer notation)
; E) 'use transport site' mask: 1: can; 0: can't for each site type (reverse programmer notation)
; F) native transport ability: 1: can; 0: can't for each map relationship type (reverse programmer notation)
; G) General flags
; 00000001 invisible until attack: 1 - invisible
; 00000010 non-disbandable (human players only): 1 - cannot disband
; 00000100 0-range-air-unit damage override: 1 - override damage
; 00001000 barbarian units can't be bought off: 1 - can't buy off
; 00010000 impassable terrain override: 1 - override impassable terrain
; 00100000 engineer capabilities flag: 1 - has abilities
; 01000000 barbarian unit will not expire: 1 - no expire
; 10000000 override .SPR file for this unit: 1 - don't use .SPR
; A B C D E F G

@UNITS_ADVANCED
00001000, 00000000, 0, 0000000000000001, 0000000000000001, 0000000000000000, 1 0000000 ;Slave Worker

	22-02-2002 18:12									#22
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Thoddy's solution should logically work - however, I know from past experience that just altering the RULES.txt file is not always enough. The game can be quite stubborn when it comes to forcing the sprites back into play!

	22-02-2002 23:53									#23
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The two files that have to be removed is static.spr and resource.spr

	27-02-2002 20:39									#24
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I just have to say that this ToT scenario really rocks!

I've been playing it for a while now and it is very entertaining.

	04-03-2002 22:57									#25
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great

	28-03-2002 13:50									#26
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I just downloaded and tried to play it, but was told that it was in an obsolete format.

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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus I just downloaded and tried to play it, but was told that it was in an obsolete format.

GeneralTacticus:

Did you install the official ToT patch? You will also need the "no limit" patch all of which can be found at www.civfanatics.com. Make sure you follow the directions in the supplied readme to the "Dictator Scenario". If you still have problems let me know.

Good luck

	05-04-2002 06:31									#28
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Mope, it still isn't working. I installed the sound files in the specified folders, but all of the files in those folders, got rid of the animations, installed both the required patches, and it still isn't working!

	06-04-2002 02:20									#29
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GeneralTacticus:

I'm trying to understand what your problem is. I've played this scenario many times. I think I can help you but I need some more details about your problem.

Thanks

	06-04-2002 05:19									#30
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Well, the problem is that when I try to play it it says 'failed to load game; file is in an obsolete format' or something like that.