15-01-2002 23:19									#1
	Naval Trade Route Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I was playing the Egyptians, stuck on a small island. Got Mapmaking, built galleys and a harbour. When I tried to contact my neighbors (the Persians who were also stuck on an island), my trade advisor tells me that I have no naval trade route. I wanted to trade wine for dyes and we both had extras.

Is this because the Persians hadn't built a harbor? What does it take to build a trade route?

On a side note, what do you guys do when you get stuck on a small island: play it out or restart?

	16-01-2002 00:01									#2
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Until you discover navigation, sea trade can only occur if you are connected by coastal squares. So discover navigation.

(also, your trading partner and you must both have harbors)

	16-01-2002 12:22									#3
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

so you have to wait for him to make a harbor.
When starting a game, i build my city, and retire to see the layout of the complete map. if the is not a decent amount of light green area, grassland around or i am on an island alone, i will make a new game, otherwise i load 4000BC and play it

	16-01-2002 20:48									#4
	Poor starting positions Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Sometimes it is fun to play from a disadvantaged start, which is why I usually try Deity. If I get stuck on a small island, I might try an OCC game. Often I start games wanting to try a specific strategy though, then I just restart until I get the necessary starting position.