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Viper2263 is offline Viper2263
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Maybe we should remind them what out country does when we get truely offended. (Afgahanistan?) Seems to me they tried to do something similar in history, but failed. Hmmm....kinda makes you think about who's still boss doesn't it?

Granted Britain was after resources (God knows what is useful in Afgahnistan), where as we're out for something totally different...





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Maybe we should remind them what out country does when we get truely offended. (Afgahanistan?) Seems to me they tried to do something similar in history, but failed.

That one particular Brit expedition was not a complete failure, only a 99.99999999999999% failure. Did they not have one man out of the thousands survive.

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All I am really concerned with is saying what I have to say. What I sound like doesn't matter to me. However, I can assure you I am not EVC. We are two very different people.


So is EVC & EVC, a different person each day.

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Do they allow other sexually oriented "clubs"?


Probably, why do you care?

Sometimes I have a lot of respect for you, and other times . . .


Okay, everyone else, Gian is a spaz. We know he's a spaz. The fact that he "brings it on himself" is no reason to engage in bullying the kid. He's just a kid. Most of us are adults. We should know better. Provost Harrison is an adult, he knows better than to pick on spazzes.

Yes, Giancarlo is a horrible little person and says really horrible things about gay people. So ignore him. That usually is far more punishing and far more effective at getting people to realize their behavior is beyond the pale. By jumping all over him, in his mind he can think you are all the bad guys and he won't change.

I think PH's punishment was over the top, but he did deserve something. If it was me, I'd just have given him a week, but I'm not a mod. It ain't up to me, and there's nothing I can do about it. PH is an adult, he needs to learn not to pick on spazzy kids.

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Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola

That one particular Brit expedition was not a complete failure, only a 99.99999999999999% failure. Did they not have one man out of the thousands survive.


And they did chomp off the bottom third of Afganistan.

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It helped the US cause that they actually had the support of most Afghan people. When a country doesn't have the support of the natives it's a bit harder (eg. Vietnam).

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Bring up the movie "The Patriot".
Some of the more mouthy Brits really get pissy then.


It makes a change to have a hollywood movie without a happy ending. Nice to see the bad guys win for a change.

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Probably, why do you care?

Sometimes I have a lot of respect for you, and other times . . .


Okay, everyone else, Gian is a spaz. We know he's a spaz. The fact that he "brings it on himself" is no reason to engage in bullying the kid. He's just a kid. Most of us are adults. We should know better. Provost Harrison is an adult, he knows better than to pick on spazzes.

Yes, Giancarlo is a horrible little person and says really horrible things about gay people. So ignore him. That usually is far more punishing and far more effective at getting people to realize their behavior is beyond the pale. By jumping all over him, in his mind he can think you are all the bad guys and he won't change.

I think PH's punishment was over the top, but he did deserve something. If it was me, I'd just have given him a week, but I'm not a mod. It ain't up to me, and there's nothing I can do about it. PH is an adult, he needs to learn not to pick on spazzy kids.



1st) It's doubtful that they have other sexually oriented "clubs".
Why do I care? Because someone wants a special club, at school, based on their sexual orientation. Which is b.s.
If that disappoints, too bad.

2nd) You're saying the same things I've said, so are you disappointed in yourself?
If so, too bad.

Lefty Scaevola is offline Lefty Scaevola
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You mean you would disapprove of my club for superstuds who have promiscuous sex with all the hottest babes on campus?!? Bah!!!!!! To each their own (and g-damn lots of it) in this area.

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At uni we had a LGB (Lesbian Gay Bisexual) society which was a social group / pressure group checking up against discrimination. Also an Asian Students group, Black students group, Christian group, Muslim students group, Different groups for different political parties, womens issues group... they weren't allowed to restrict their membership though.

If anyone had wanted to form a straight white male group I'm sure that would have been allowed too as long as they didn't restrict their membership to straight white males. *shrug*

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Originally posted by Boddington's
I see Slowwhand and Chris62 amongst others are wedging themselves even further up MtG's arse. Only to be expected, of course as they can't think for themselves.



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MtG,

You say what happens externally is of no interest to the Mods in adjudicating. That's ridiculous - Giancarlo has sent nude pictures of "himself" to many posters, and complimented many male posters on their looks. He is gay.

If we then pertain to him being gay on the site, we get banned? That's plainly ridiculous. Should we not talk about anyone's sexuality in case it might offend them?


You have a choice to receive whatever he allegedly sends or not. And no, we're not the police for the whole internet and your cel phone and little dog too.

It's been made very clear for some time now that the gay-baiting of Giancarlo is off limits, the same way any consistent harassment of any other poster will not be tolerated.

You're not so stupid that you don't get this - between your "rubble of New York" joke in the other thread and bringing up the Giancarlo-gay crap here in the guise of discussion, you're doing a classic Spink trolling game.

You can resume it next week, when your ban is lifted.

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Americans maybe easily offended, Sept. 11 is a valid reason.

I also think that maybe you can offend the Brits. Anyone recall 1812? It seems to me that Britain got offended, as a one time superpower that had the s*** beat out of them by a handful of their own colonies of peseants and politically exiled people.



Notice the Yank conveniently forgetting to mention that the colony 1/10th the size of the US and immediately north of it kicked its ass, even though half of its population was frigging French.

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Originally posted by MattHiggs

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to publicly humiliate the class freak, just like back in the elementary school playground where there was always one kid who was everyone's target.


There is a lot of childhood aggression there methinks. Got something to tell us?


Yeah - the class freaks used to pay me their daily lunch money to act as their bodyguard and enforcer.

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Not a bad line of work if you can get it.

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Yeah - the class freaks used to pay me their daily lunch money to act as their bodyguard and enforcer.


You must've had quite the "protection" racket going on.

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Notice the Yank conveniently forgetting to mention that the colony 1/10th the size of the US and immediately north of it kicked its ass, even though half of its population was frigging French.



Uh, yeah.

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Originally posted by MikeH
At uni we had a LGB (Lesbian Gay Bisexual) society which was a social group / pressure group checking up against discrimination. Also an Asian Students group, Black students group, Christian group, Muslim students group, Different groups for different political parties, womens issues group... they weren't allowed to restrict their membership though.

If anyone had wanted to form a straight white male group I'm sure that would have been allowed too as long as they didn't restrict their membership to straight white males. *shrug*


Do you have a clue how little sense any of that makes, and the lack of relevance?
What does a black students group have to do with sexual practices?

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Not a bad line of work if you can get it.


Let's say I made 'em an offer they couldn't refuse.

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Asher, your constant reference to "old man" bothers me very little.
Hopefully your mouth won't disallow the same for you some day.

When I'm an old man, I'll refer to myself as an old man.
Right now I'm a young man, and as such I'll refer to myself as a young man.

I just found it odd you decided to try to threadjack with a post whining about how others have threadjacked.

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*sigh* sorry my brain is not working properly today. I was trying to say that you could pick any attribute of people and form a club for it. Doesn't imply predjudice unless you limit the people that can join the club. Sexual orientation, colour, religion, political beliefs, sex are all things that people will use to judge and form predjudicial opinions about other people but at the end of the day are totally irrelevant to what that person is like as an individual. Why shouldn't there be a club at a school which is set up for gay students to provide them with support for the particular issues that are relevant to them? No reason I couldn't also join it but perhaps I don't need support from my peers when I have to come out to my parents or whatever.

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Do you have a clue how little sense any of that makes, and the lack of relevance?
What does a black students group have to do with sexual practices?

He was illustrating that minorities were allowed to have clubs at the school that celebrated/dealt with those minorities.

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So who do you think will win the World Cup this year?

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Argentina.

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Yeah they have a really, really good chance. Though I think Czech Republic are really, really good this year.

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Thing is a European team has never won outside Europe...

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What does a black students group have to do with sexual practices?


So they can get more SEX, perhaps?

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So they can get more SEX, perhaps?


Has it really been that long for you Lefty?

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Even more reason they will win then, that statistic has to end some time.

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About 5 hours ago. You got to admit I have a handle on this suject. Err, wait, I did not really want to say that, did I?

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I see Slowwhand and Chris62 amongst others are wedging themselves even further up MtG's arse. Only to be expected, of course as they can't think for themselves.
And yet, I have never had any problem shooting down any argument you have ever put forth.
Doesn't say much for you, dear Spinky, now does it?

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That's why you go with friends. You don't seriously thought I meant that I go around a pub mocking every individual in there? No. Just friendly banter with people we know.
Typical thug mentality.
Insult others while in groups to attempt to avoid retaliation.
For shame, dear boy.
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You're joking, right? Americans over here complain because customer service is worse than they receive back home. We're prepared to accept.
Hardly valid, any first person experince is subject to varibles, such as the amount of times exposed to others of whom you speak.
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I'm not whining, just discussing. Hey if Americans want to get all riled-up and offended then that's their choice, it certainly makes the job of MarkG, AH and cohorts easier.
Yep, they bouce you like a rubber ball!

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And in response to your "walking away" comment which you like to constantly repeat, I was sleeping.
To easy, I'll let that one pass.
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You say what happens externally is of no interest to the Mods in adjudicating. That's ridiculous - Giancarlo has sent nude pictures of "himself" to many posters, and complimented many male posters on their looks. He is gay.
Typical thug tactic.
Make a bold statement that is impossible to verify, as the "sources" are corrupted.

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If we then pertain to him being gay on the site, we get banned? That's plainly ridiculous. Should we not talk about anyone's sexuality in case it might offend them?
Looks like that's the case, Spinky!

Getting on to your topic, as many here well know, I answer you as you speak to me.
If someone insults me or my country, they will draw the same or worse fire.
Basically, if you want to troll, be prepaired to take the heat.

What often causes problems between US and other posters, is the fact that others will often believe anything that is negative about the US, without a shred of evidense.
An example, a few months back, the Taliban leaked a story claiming that "The UN was recieved reports that USA bombing hospitals in Kabul".
This went straight to the boards, followed by a number of angry posters denoucing the USA, and adding other "facts" to the USA's list of imfamies.
I pointed out (and correctly, as it turned out), that there was no proof, so no reason to believe it, as it came from the USA's enimies.
The obvious bias was seen, on the part of so-called "enlightened" non-US posters.
A few days ago, El Queda prisiners were brought to Gitmo, and at poly we see "US breaking Geneva convention reguarding POWs?".
Totally ignorring that these were criminals, not POWs, we were treated to endless pages of what was basically a complaint about the US favoring the death penalty, as oppossed to others views against this.
Once again, the USA and it's posters were attacked and villified, and if we respond in kind, people like our friend Spinky here call ua "sensitive".
Sprayber did a nice thread about the "best and worst" of your countries' histories.
I wrote a long post on what was bad about the USA's history, and recieved one favorable remark about it's brutal honesty.
I wrote a second post about the good things, and was attacked for pages on end about points I brought up, forcing me to defend each and every word.
You telling me that is not bias?
Not a single USA poster questioned good moments of other nations, but write about what's good in America and the vultures swoop in, and you tell me we are "oversensitive"?!!?

As with all Spink trolls, they never survive truth or the light of day, and this is no different.

And just a reminder, I will continue as always.
Speak to me, I will speak back.
Attack me, and I will fight back.

Simple as that.

 
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