17-01-2002 08:39									#1
	Guys, what the hell are you doing? Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Seriously, it's been 3 months since civ 3 was released and you're still going on about ideas and gripes. You guys went on for 2 years about ideas for civ3...do you see any of those ideas in civ3? I think not. You've been trying to get answers from Firaxis since the game was released...have they responded yet...with a REAL answer? Do you see a trend here? It's time to throw in the towel and move on. The game is dead, and after this fiasco I really doubt anyone is going to buy civ IV even if they do make one. Yes, the hardcore gamers will buy it still, but what about all the casual players who realized that there are games out there that are 10 times better than civ3 for a cheaper price? No matter what ideas you come up with, no matter how many messages you send to firaxis, no matter how many posts you make, it's not going to make a difference. You're just wasting your time. The only thing that made civ so great was its gameplay, graphics were never that great to begin with. But now we have horrible graphics with horrible gameplay...doesn't this tell you something? There's a whole world of games out there besides civ, I think it's time to cut your losses and move on. I've played civ for 10 years and I can say I've moved on and will never look back at civ again.

	17-01-2002 09:02									#2
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It's like what the traffic guy calls a 'gaper delay'. People will move on eventually.

	17-01-2002 09:03									#3
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Well, I guess if there are some who are very optimistic there must also be people who are equally pessimistic.

But, are you positive you won't check back to see if patch number 54x has hit the home run?

See ya.

	17-01-2002 09:07									#4
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quote: do you see any of those ideas in civ3? I think not.

Culture and Resources, the two biggest additions to the game.

	17-01-2002 09:08									#5
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I like the pretty collector's tin!

	17-01-2002 09:09									#6
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I want to see it all go down. JK, this game has been selling too well for that. But I think the civ series is dead. Firaxis won't want to put up with our sh!t for another crack at it. They'll concentrate on golf and other sims. good luck. Another company dominates that market.

	17-01-2002 09:11									#7
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quote: I like the pretty collector's tin!

Also another idea that was prominently displayed here on Poly long ago...

	17-01-2002 09:15									#8
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Get real, if you think that Infogrames is not going to make Civ4 (which would be another multi-million dollar seller) because of the whines of a handful of geeks on an "obscure" forum, you're totally out to lunch.

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	17-01-2002 09:20									#9
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but infogrames owns the civ franchise, so it doesn't matter if firaxis wants to do it or not, if infogrames think they can make money making civ4, then we will see civ4, if not then we won't

simple as that

	17-01-2002 09:23									#10
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And there is even the possibility that Infogrames might give the job of making CivIV to another company...

	17-01-2002 09:44									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident But I think the civ series is dead. Firaxis won't want to put up with our sh!t for another crack at it.

Hmm - make a big profit and ignore a few griping gamers or succumb to their will and go broke? Hmmm. Hmmmmmm. Tough choice.

	17-01-2002 09:44									#12
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That would be super-sweet if Firaxis got stripped of the Civ franchise. Talk about wax poetic.

Sid and his cronies would then have to concentrate on making more 14 minute vids of them playing the piano and talking about how great they are.

	17-01-2002 09:54									#13
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If you think Sid Maier will ever be seperated from the Civilization title, you're nuts. It is his baby, always has been his baby, and always will be his baby.

	17-01-2002 09:58									#14
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Ummm, he already *was* stripped of the Civ series before.

	17-01-2002 10:02									#15
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maybe if Sid actually designed this game...

I have doubts he has even seen it

yeah I forgot Infogrames owns the rights. Damn them...Damn them all to hell.

	17-01-2002 11:20									#16
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Culture and strategic resources ideas of apolytoners...tell me this isn't true? If this is true then some of the idiots here on apolyton are to blame for this as well.

	17-01-2002 11:29									#17
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infograms are the ones that really really suck. firaxis only kind of sucks.

Besides, when you said putting up with our sh!it, what exactly did you mean? If you meant listening to the problems we are having and makind a serious effort to reconcile them, they can't be tired of it, because they haven't done it yet

	17-01-2002 11:32									#18
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quote: Culture and strategic resources ideas of apolytoners...tell me this isn't true? If this is true then some of the idiots here on apolyton are to blame for this as well.

It's true. Of course, I don't recall Poly being asked for input on how cities revolt or how clearly resources should appear on the map, etc. One would think Firaxis would use some common sense. The ideas themselves are quite good and came from here.

	17-01-2002 11:42									#19
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"I think it's time to cut your losses and move on. I've played civ for 10 years and I can say I've moved on and will never look back at civ again."

Later.

	17-01-2002 13:31									#20
	Re: Guys, what the hell are you doing? Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by EnigmaticGod There's a whole world of games out there besides civ, I think it's time to cut your losses and move on. I've played civ for 10 years and I can say I've moved on and will never look back at civ again.

thanks for the troll, goodbye