18-01-2002 01:52									#1
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Ok, My War fro Austrian Succession is going on now, but i still need a tip before playtesting.

I'm not really happy about Civ2 score system or objectives cities assignment... so i wanted to ask for your Leaguers' opinion.

My humble idea : a political system, with a different goal for every nation. I inspired myself to Risiko score system, considering every city as a territory card, and every civ with a different objective to realize.

Example:

You're playing as Prussia? then you'll have to realize a certain goal, that's more exactly to neutralize France's influence over Germany and conquering Slesia without depowering Austria too much...

You're playing as Piedmont? You'll have to take control over Genoa, Corsica, Lumbardy and if possible to assume a leadership position in Italy...

You're playing as England? Simple try to mantain the "status quo ante"...

and so on.

So? What do you think about it? Or should i combine it with one of traditional Civ score systems?

	18-01-2002 03:14									#2
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I think that it is a more interesting system,

I´ve played an scn about the 30 year´s war (i don´t remember which one) that it had a similar score system

it´s a great idea

	18-01-2002 03:16									#3
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I have been thinking along this lines for a long time now (even if I'm no scenario creator myself )

Giving special objectives to every country would IMHO bring two main advantages (and not only for this specific scenario):

1) you would be able to make your scenario even more realistic

2) it would make playing all the different nations interesting, no matter how backward they are, as you wouldn't need to reach the same goals!!

So keep on going in this direction, I'm eager to see how you would make it

	18-01-2002 04:18									#4
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Excellent!
Reminds me of Arabia Awakens, where every civ had a different set of objectives and house rules. I love that scenario.

	18-01-2002 05:05									#5
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Good idea

Have you considered using events to encourage players to follow thier goals?
eg: Britain gets penalised every time a French city is captured, Prussia gets penalised every time someone else kills an Austrian unit, etc

	18-01-2002 23:04									#6
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quote: Originally posted by HisMajestyBOB Excellent! Reminds me of Arabia Awakens, where every civ had a different set of objectives and house rules. I love that scenario.

arabia awakens??

I´ve never heard of that scenario, where can I find it?

	19-01-2002 01:29									#7
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Thanks to all for your precious tips!!

quote: Originally posted by Case Good idea Have you considered using events to encourage players to follow thier goals? eg: Britain gets penalised every time a French city is captured, Prussia gets penalised every time someone else kills an Austrian unit, etc

Case, how about if England is going to be penalized every time French capture a Belgian city under austrian rule? this way, they'll be forced to defend them...

And Prussia is going to be penalized if their allies capture a very, very special Austrian unit...

Also, i resurrected an old trick i used in my Antigonos' scenario: to use some cities as mercenaries' recruiting center ( Hessen? Basel? Zurich? ). This way, assigning them as barbarian cities, also neutrals will have a goal: to conquer them, depriving big civs of their mercenaries services... and maybe big civs are going to be penalized as they conquest these cities ( but only once in the game ). A pay-once-and-for-all system to recruit mercenaries...

	19-01-2002 04:03									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Shaka Naldur arabia awakens?? I´ve never heard of that scenario, where can I find it?

You should be able to find it on the Apolyton Database, its by Leon Marrick, who seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth, which is a real shame, as he made some great scenarios even before MGE and events