19-01-2002 01:42									#1
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...aka His Mayesty Kobayashi newest discovery.

quote: Originally posted by kobayashi Morten, I just discovered something new to use in Civ2 (which isn't very common nowadays) that may apply to your scenario. It seems that odd/even or even/odd coordinates do not exist on the map but exist in the program. So if you use an event to create an AI unit of 0 move in these locations, they can still exert a ZOC on your human units from their 'sub-space' location. A much better solution than invisible units since they can't be attacked accidently and a guide unit with ignore ZOC can bring troops across a blocked zone.

Do you realize what does it means... endless possibilities!!!!

	19-01-2002 02:10									#2
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This isn't new... Captain Nemo used it in "Red Front" to insert russian units behind german lines. Nobody could put units to avoid the insertion because the tiles didn't exist.

	19-01-2002 02:16									#3
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It seems i wasted thread, then...

	19-01-2002 02:30									#4
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nope, you didn't, i wasn't aware

	19-01-2002 02:49									#5
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estooooo,Prom, sorry for speaking spanish but i amnot sure to understand it in English

que se supone que es eso que habla este thread??es que como esta en inglis no me entero mu bien, exactamente en que consiste esto de las ZOC?

	19-01-2002 02:56									#6
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quote: Originally posted by kIndal estooooo,Prom, sorry for speaking spanish but i amnot sure to understand it in English que se supone que es eso que habla este thread??es que como esta en inglis no me entero mu bien, exactamente en que consiste esto de las ZOC?

ZOC=Zone of control. La zona de control de una unidad es lo que te impide moverte cerca de un enemigo


X X X
X O X
X X X

Si entras en una X, siendo la O una unidad enemiga, no puedes moverte a otra X.

Habla Prom de que casillas del tipo 43,42 o 42,43 (par/impar, impar/par) no existen físicamente: es decir no puedes colocar allí unidades desde otras casillas. Sin embargo, si las creas automaticamente, con eventos, aunque nunca se usen ni se muevan crean una ZOC y puedes colocar así barreras invisibles. Interesante para Kramsib y su Francia

Se que esto lo sabes mejor que yo, kIndal, pero es que no entendí tu comentario.

	19-01-2002 03:02									#7
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Gracias yaros, es que no entendia muy bien lo de que habia escrito Prom, no sabia que se pudiera poner unidades en esas casillas pero ahora ya esta aclarado, gracias

	19-01-2002 03:20									#8
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De nada

	19-01-2002 03:49									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Prometeus It seems i wasted thread, then...

Not at all, Prom. The idea of the ZOCs is really good, and I had never thought about it.
But you know, I had the imperious need of saying I knew everything :Pedantic:

P.S And the smiley is very funny!

	19-01-2002 18:11									#10
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it´s a really interesting tip,

didn´t know that nemo use it in red front

	20-01-2002 01:51									#11
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http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...26&pagenumber=3

More news from Civfanatics... it seems that kinda ZOC can be avoided moving units in one particuklar direction... just follow the links to learn out more

I was thinking to use them as armistice line between Prussians and austrians in my W.A.S. scenario... oh well.... i'll have to use more then five fortresses, then...

	20-01-2002 02:06									#12
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SI! Ahora se como mierda voy a hacer impassable el desierto de Aqabah en mi Arab revolt!