19-01-2002 21:52									#1
	two months have passed, and we have no idea when next patch will be released Inflate your Upload Space

Game was released in october, first patch was in november.

So, is there going to be next patch (soon)?

	19-01-2002 22:10									#2
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First patch was in December.

	19-01-2002 22:15									#3
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My mistake!

(although it was an early december)

	19-01-2002 22:17									#4
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I hab your cards in pront o' me now. I see a pibe o' swords! O mon! Miss Cleo know da answer to your question. Call now por your pree readin'! Whachoo got to lose but a little bit o' money? Hurry, cos da nex card could be da Hangin' Man. Or da Pool!

	19-01-2002 22:21									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Libertarian I hab your cards in pront o' me now. I see a pibe o' swords! O mon! Miss Cleo know da answer to your question. Call now por your pree readin'! Whachoo got to lose but a little bit o' money? Hurry, cos da nex card could be da Hangin' Man. Or da Pool!

I didn't know that we have an Apolyton fortune-teller.












Joke, no offense.

	19-01-2002 22:21									#6
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I think that they won't make the next patch before the beta test group is ready and has tested it.

	19-01-2002 22:28									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos I think that they won't make the next patch before the beta test group is ready and has tested it.

Strage I thought that it was for third patch.

Anyway, what they were doing for FULL TWO MONTHS.

	19-01-2002 22:30									#8
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I would be more tolerant if they were doing someting more then game polishing (like stack-movement or Hotseat&PBEM MP)

	19-01-2002 22:32									#9
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quote: Originally posted by player1 Strage I thought that it was for third patch. Anyway, what they were doing for FULL TWO MONTHS.

Might be, but they still need to test the patches, and can't rush them to contain more bugs then the original game. If they get it tested before the Beta team is ready they might release it, but don't count on anything.

	19-01-2002 22:34									#10
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quote: Originally posted by player1 I would be more tolerant if they were doing someting more then game polishing (like stack-movement or Hotseat&PBEM MP)

Relax, they have had holidays. Also how long did they work with the first patch? (My guess is that they started when the game went gold)

	20-01-2002 06:03									#11
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It really is a no win situation for them. If they released a patch now to satisfy those of us who want it NOW, the rest would say "Those guys rushed the game now they are rushing the patches"
If they take their time and do as thorough as possible job on making the patch, those of us who want it NOW would say "Man, it is taking them forever to get out the patches, what is wrong with them guys anyway"

	20-01-2002 06:50									#12
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I believe Player 1 like us would just like an offical statement about a future patch when it might be out. Even if it's 2 months away from now at least we know they are doing something.

I know I know it's been said before but at least on other game forums they keep thier customers (or fans ) in the know about what is going on. I don't see that here.

Davor

	20-01-2002 08:50									#13
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Yolky is right...

	20-01-2002 08:54									#14
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Are they still working on a patch?

	20-01-2002 09:17									#15
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi Are they still working on a patch?

They cannot discuss whether they are working on a patch. Even if they are working on one, and were able to reveal so, they would not be able to mention what is contained in said patch (assuming such a patch is being worked on, which cannot and should not be construed by any comments made thus far by anyone inside or outside of Firaxis). If a patch is being worked on (which it may or may not be), it will almost certainly make the game rise, phoenix-like, from the ashes of its' thus far mediocre beginning. How exactly this may or may not happen is also not open to public discussion.

Hope this helps.

	20-01-2002 14:26									#16
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I therefore clearly cannot choose the wine in front of me...

	20-01-2002 18:19									#17
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It is possible there will not be new patches before expansion pack. That would be a stimuli to buy it.

	20-01-2002 18:50									#18
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At least if Firaxis could say something like:

-It will be released in Februarry, or
-It will be released in March, etc...


OR,

We plan to add (or postpone for third patch):
-more editor options
-Hotset & PBEM MP
-only to make game more stable
-only to balance units more
-stack movement, etc...


So we can know what to expect in next patch.
Will it be big update, small update.
What WILL NOT be done in second patch, etc...




In fact it would be best if Firaxis gives us a hint about:

What WILL NOT be done in second patch.

That way we would know what to expect, or not expect.
And they could still (if they like) not tell us about things in second patch.

	20-01-2002 19:47									#19
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quote: Originally posted by player1 That way we would know what to expect, or not expect. And they could still (if they like) not tell us about things in second patch.

Precisely, but you would only be fooling yourself to expect quality service or even half baked mindless PR. They've been told by all of us (or most of the fans anyway) that they don't have to give us dates, or promises, but to merely let us know what they are working on so as to keep us in the loop. I don't know about everyone else, but my emails went un-answered.. probably because they know who Iam and they don't like my criticism. And they make the assupmtion that I'll merely go away if they don't answer me, WRONG.

I strongly believe (and would even bet my car on it) there won't be another patch. The next step will be the expansion pack or something similar, and knowing them and their egotisticle selfish bahaviour.. it will definately cost money.

Charles.

	20-01-2002 20:14									#20
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Now they'll do a patch just to spite you.

	20-01-2002 21:19									#21
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quote: Originally posted by CharlesUFarley I strongly believe (and would even bet my car on it) there won't be another patch. The next step will be the expansion pack or something similar, and knowing them and their egotisticle selfish bahaviour.. it will definately cost money. Charles.

Even if they go to XP then they'll probably:
-make patch which "only" fixes things
-make XP which gives "something" extra (with patch included)

	20-01-2002 21:22									#22
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At least, that's the way how some other companies work.

Examples:
-Starcraft & Brood war
-Heroes of Might and Magic & various XP
-Civ2 & various XP

	20-01-2002 21:43									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Libertarian Now they'll do a patch just to spite you.

Any reason would be OK with me...

	21-01-2002 01:17									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Libertarian I therefore clearly cannot choose the wine in front of me...

Inconceivable!

	21-01-2002 02:31									#25
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Damn, last post in the thread uses my Inconceivable line...damn it!

I thought for a minute Libs post was gonna go unresponded to, like pearls cast before swine...

Venger

	21-01-2002 11:07									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Libertarian Now they'll do a patch just to spite you.

Probably.

Charles.

	21-01-2002 11:26									#27
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To all the whiners here: Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?! No, I didn't think so! Now sit down and be patient! Posting information on the Internet isn't as easy as you think ... there are firewalls, and proxies and IP spoofing (oh my!) to think about. It's not like Firaxis has all the time in the world to figure out how to connect to the Internet AND make a game!!!

Geesh! Cry babies!!!

	21-01-2002 11:59									#28
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 To all the whiners here: Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?! No, I didn't think so! Now sit down and be patient! Posting information on the Internet isn't as easy as you think ... there are firewalls, and proxies and IP spoofing (oh my!) to think about. It's not like Firaxis has all the time in the world to figure out how to connect to the Internet AND make a game!!! Geesh! Cry babies!!!

yeah what were they thinking!

Charles.

	21-01-2002 14:43									#29
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quote: I thought for a minute Libs post was gonna go unresponded to, like pearls cast before swine...

Just wait till I get started! ... Now, where was I?

	21-01-2002 21:50									#30
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This swine therefore clearly cannot choose the pearl in front of me...

Why would they be working on a patch when there is nothing important broken to fix and their publishers would be much more interested in expanded features like multiplayer and scenarios that they can sell?